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  • 05-02-2012, 07:55 PM
    Jabberwocky Dragons
    Re: Python versus Gator, Scientists Hard at work feeding the Propaganda Machine
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    Originally Posted by JaGv View Post
    they seem to exagerate on tv but i say they are just trying to bring attention on y these animals are let loose after owners cant care for them anymore and that their size can make them dangerous in a way when their hunting for food.. i got nothing against owning burms but if people cant care for them when they reach past 12ft then they shouldnt get one

    I agree that people should not own any living creature that they are not going to properly care for but where is your evidence that large numbers of irresponsible pet owners are releasing their Burmese into the wild?

    My understanding is most of the wild Burmese originate from two hurricanes that destroyed zoos and breeding facilities.
  • 05-02-2012, 08:12 PM
    JaGv
    Re: Python versus Gator, Scientists Hard at work feeding the Propaganda Machine
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    Originally Posted by Jabberwocky Dragons View Post
    I agree that people should not own any living creature that they are not going to properly care for but where is your evidence that large numbers of irresponsible pet owners are releasing their Burmese into the wild?

    My understanding is most of the wild Burmese originate from two hurricanes that destroyed zoos and breeding facilities.

    you could be right zoo and breeding facilities.. as far as evidence no one is going to admitt to dumping snakes in the wild got none for you
  • 05-03-2012, 12:01 AM
    SpartaDog
    The zoos and breeding facilities is the generally accepted theory among herpers....but outside of that, no one cares enough to look into it so they all think it was released pets.

    I'm sure some pets were released at some point, and they definitely don't help the problem. But the chances of them being the main cause for it are slim, though incalculable, because as JaGv pointed out, you can never tell who is and isn't telling the truth about releasing animals.
  • 05-03-2012, 05:43 PM
    minguss
    Re: Python versus Gator, Scientists Hard at work feeding the Propaganda Machine
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Jabberwocky Dragons View Post
    I agree that people should not own any living creature that they are not going to properly care for but where is your evidence that large numbers of irresponsible pet owners are releasing their Burmese into the wild?

    My understanding is most of the wild Burmese originate from two hurricanes that destroyed zoos and breeding facilities.


    There is none .Genetic study of the everglade burms show two every important things
    1:they have limited genetic differential, ie very closely related
    2: they are not related to burms from Vietnam, which is important because that has been the the sole source of imports since 1994

    http://www.usark.org/uploads/FloridaBurmGenetics.pdf
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