Ugh.. I think she's sick

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Originally Posted by Slim

Where were your snakes during this 36 hour period, and how were they heated during that time?

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In yet another tank I have (a 30g) and heated with a heat lamp (smaller one I had in the garage as their usual one is too huge for a 30g).

I guess I just don't understand why you still have them in the same tank, if you have two tanks at your disposal?

Well, Thomas, I could go into detail about how the 30g isn't mine, but my kids really since I gave it to them; and how I have to get rid of one of the big tanks because of a deal I've made with my husband so keeping them both would be doable but not without a fight for reasons I doubt anyone really cares to endure reading about.

Whether they should be in the same (divided) tank is not in question right now. I'm not asking about that. I'm asking about the female possibly needing to be seen by a vet (or not). I honestly don't know why (after the last painful thread where it was hashed and rehashed) I really find myself having to explain it again.

Thanks for all your helpful advice on the matter, but I think I will just call the vet in the morning and ask their opinion but knowing how vets operate, if they tell me "don't worry about it", I might just fall out of my chair from shock.

I would guess this isn't something a vet can fix, rather your husbandry could fix. Get them in properly sized and heated seperate enclosures. From the sounds of things there could be several reasons for the regurge.

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Well, Manasha-Bogo, I could go into detail about how I've been around here long enough to know which horses you can run to the water, and which ones you have to slow walk to the point. A point you have repeatedly missed, first in the last painful thread, and now, more and more in this one.

Absolutely, take your snake to the Vet. And until you get your husbandry right, you can probably plan for more visits in the future.

Good luck with your animals.

Now now everyone, let's not get frustrated here. The OP has acknowledged there is a problem and that she is working to fix it. It will just take her a little bit of time. We can not hope to understand any previous personal issues which have resulted in the current situation, but rather must look to the problem at hand. Yes, housing them together is certainly a bad idea, especially if one is ill (as seen with the mites) and for many other reasons which have been mentioned both here and in her previous thread.

The question at hand however, is whether or not the snake should be taken to the vet. First, to the OP, could you please tell us what your temps are in the enclosure?

Also, if she regurged the mouse as quickly as you made it seem, it may not be entirely the result of a heating issue. You have had other concerns about her general health since you brought her home, so in this instance I think perhaps it would be wise to take her to a vet. Especially if you have never taken her before. At the very least it could bring you peace of mind if the vet concludes there is nothing wrong with her. However, do NOT take her to work with you and then to the vet. That kind of stress will not help her situation in the least if she is ill. Rather, call the vet and see what times they can meet with you that work with your schedule. Many vets also work weekends, so you could also take her then. But only take her from home straight to the vet and back. If she is ill, she will need the least additional stress you can manage.

However, if the earliest you can take her is Monday, she will likely be okay until then. Just keep a close eye on her and if she seems to get worse, take her in ASAP. If you have taken her to the vet before, and the vet cleared her, but this new symptom has arisen...you can also likely wait until Monday or so and she will again, likely, be fine. As in all other possible scenarios mentioned, keep an eye on her and if you notice her condition worsening noticeably, take her to the vet at the earliest possible time.

I hope this helps.

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Originally Posted by Slim

Well, Manasha-Bogo, I could go into detail about how I've been around here long enough to know which horses you can run to the water, and which ones you have to slow walk to the point. A point you have repeatedly missed, first in the last painful thread, and now, more and more in this one.

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Which is? What point is it that I have missed? That they should be separated? In case you haven't read where I typed it out before, THEY ARE.

That they needed to be kept in a heated enclosure while their other tank was being decontaminated? In case you also missed that one too. THEY WERE.

That they should be kept not in a divided enclosure but in two separate enclosures smaller altogether. Again, in case you missed it, I said OK I WILL LISTEN TO YOU.

Is there something else that I didn't "get"? Please explain it because I don't see it.

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Originally Posted by Slim

And until you get your husbandry right, you can probably plan for more visits in the future.

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So you're telling me that if she's sick, it's because she is living in a glass tank instead of a plastic tub? Everything else being equal, how does that make sense?

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Originally Posted by WarriorPrincess90

Now now everyone, let's not get frustrated here. The OP has acknowledged there is a problem and that she is working to fix it. It will just take her a little bit of time. We can not hope to understand any previous personal issues which have resulted in the current situation, but rather must look to the problem at hand. Yes, housing them together is certainly a bad idea, especially if one is ill (as seen with the mites) and for many other reasons which have been mentioned both here and in her previous thread.

The question at hand however, is whether or not the snake should be taken to the vet. First, to the OP, could you please tell us what your temps are in the enclosure?

Also, if she regurged the mouse as quickly as you made it seem, it may not be entirely the result of a heating issue. You have had other concerns about her general health since you brought her home, so in this instance I think perhaps it would be wise to take her to a vet. Especially if you have never taken her before. At the very least it could bring you peace of mind if the vet concludes there is nothing wrong with her. However, do NOT take her to work with you and then to the vet. That kind of stress will not help her situation in the least if she is ill. Rather, call the vet and see what times they can meet with you that work with your schedule. Many vets also work weekends, so you could also take her then. But only take her from home straight to the vet and back. If she is ill, she will need the least additional stress you can manage.

However, if the earliest you can take her is Monday, she will likely be okay until then. Just keep a close eye on her and if she seems to get worse, take her in ASAP. If you have taken her to the vet before, and the vet cleared her, but this new symptom has arisen...you can also likely wait until Monday or so and she will again, likely, be fine. As in all other possible scenarios mentioned, keep an eye on her and if you notice her condition worsening noticeably, take her to the vet at the earliest possible time.

I hope this helps.

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THANK YOU!!

That makes sense. I certainly don't want to stress her as she looks a bit shaky. Thanks!

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Originally Posted by Manasha-Bogo

That they should be separated? In case you haven't read where I typed it out before, THEY ARE.

Snakes in the same tank with an egg crate between them really don't qualify as being seperated. At least not in my mind. Especially in light of the mite issue and now having one that is possibly sick.


So you're telling me that if she's sick, it's because she is living in a glass tank instead of a plastic tub? Everything else being equal, how does that make sense?

Point of order, Madam Chairman, I never said your snake is sick because she's not in a plastic tub. Though, that would be an awesome and relatively inexpensive way to seperate your ball pythons

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you did ask about temperature... I don't want it to seem as if I'm blowing that off so here it is..

I have a thermometer with a probe on the basking "rock" (if you wanna call it that). It remains pretty steady around 91-93 degrees F. the rest of the tank fluctuates between 75 degrees at night and 83+ during the day while the heat lamp is on. I know the night temp should stay higher than this. It definitely will drop lower in the winter (even tho this is s. florida, it does get in the 40's & 50's). I have looked into solutions for that including under-tank heating but that won't work with the way the tank stand is solid wood and not open underneath.

I have the big honking heat lamp in the middle and their hides are as close to the middle as they can go on either side of the divider. water on opposite ends of the tank. plain white paper towel on the bottom. nothing else in there right now as I'm waiting for all evidence of mites to disappear. They spend all their time on top of, beside, or inside their hides which are directly under the one heat lamp. Every once in a while I catch them in soaking in their water. that's about all I can think to describe.