New Albino Ball Python

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Originally Posted by BallKingdom

Are 100% hets proven? Thats how that works, correct?

With 50% pairs I could produce albinos in a couple years. But by then I fear I won't be able to sell them, or they will be worthless.

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100% hets are created 2 ways:

A) Breeding a Homozygous animal to a normal - the entire clutch of resulting offspring will be 100% hets.

B) Breeding a Homozygous animal to a heterozygous animal - theoretically half of the resulting offspring will be homozygous, and half will be 100% hets.


50% hets come from breeding a heterozygous animal to a normal animal. Half of the resulting offspring are normal and half of the resulting offspring are hets (once again, theoretically speaking), but since all of the offspring are normal in appearance it is impossible to tell which are the hets and which aren't. Hence when picking offspring from such a pairing, you have a 50% chance of that particular animal being a het.

Make sense? If not, let me know what I can clarify. This stuff can take a few tries to understand completely.

K

P.S. Albino ball pythons will NEVER be worthless - there is always going to be a demand for them.

K

once again i ask, how much would one of those bad boys cost?

I think it's on Bob Clark's site that I saw albinos listed for $3000 each.

Yeah, they are up around 3,000 for albinos, you can get a 100%het pair for like 800-900 and in two years you'll get a clutch of all albinos from breeding them. I think.

Now if each of those are worth, lets say 2500 by then. Well...you sure make up for your 900 bucks. Then you have about 12,000 bucks in your pockets to go for 100% het pied, or maybe to another morph. You start off with a little, and slowly work your way up. Soon you'll start having tens of thousands to buy your herps with and you can start making some serious cash on the side. It's kinda progressive, hopefully in a year or two I'll get some hets of something. If I could I'd get some 100% albinos right now.

It's worth a shot, eh?

Sorry I did not reply sooner about the cost. This albino was a little more than a normal Ball Python due to the fact that he is possible het for snow. As for price about $5000, I did some trading, not all cash so it is a little differant, but you get the idea. As for his genetics, his father was a double het VPI snow, his mother was an albino. This gives him a 50/50 chance of being Het for VPI axanthic. I will be breeding him to some het VPI axanthic girls in hopes of proving him to be a het. Alot of work, but its all worth it :D
Jason

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Originally Posted by BallKingdom

you can get a 100%het pair for like 800-900 and in two years you'll get a clutch of all albinos

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No, the above statement is incorrect. When you breed Het X Het, you will get - theoretically speaking - 1/4 of the clutch should be normal, non-gene-carrying animals, 1/2 of the clutch should be albino, and 1/4 of the clutch should be normal-appearing animals that are heterozygous for albino. Hence you've just created homozygous albinos as well as 66% possible hets.

Make sense?

K

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Originally Posted by BallKingdom

Now if each of those are worth, lets say 2500 by then. Well...you sure make up for your 900 bucks. Then you have about 12,000 bucks in your pockets to go for 100% het pied, or maybe to another morph. You start off with a little, and slowly work your way up. Soon you'll start having tens of thousands to buy your herps with and you can start making some serious cash on the side. It's kinda progressive, hopefully in a year or two I'll get some hets of something. If I could I'd get some 100% albinos right now.

It's worth a shot, eh?

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Have you factored in what it will cost you to feed all these animals? Cage them in an efficient manner that also makes them comfortable enough to reproduce? What it will cost to raise your feeders (if you breed them yourself), or to buy and store them if you purchase elsewhere? Where do you put all of this - do you have room in your current residence, or do you need to build an addition, or even rent space at another location? What does electricity and water cost to maintain a growing collection, not to mention husbandry supplies? The list goes on and on and on and on...

Not trying to put a damper on anything...just add some perspective. It's not all just "money in the bank."

K

P.S. Why pay $12k for a het pied? You can get het pairs for around $5k and actual Pieds for $7500+

Yeah, I def screwed that to hell. It was like 5:45 in the morning when I wrote that. Where was my mind, hehe. I meant a 100% het pied pair, so you could hopefully get pieds.

Thanks, and yeah you do need to factor in a lot of things. But I didn't really get into it. Hets are not my thing.

Or, if you really want to spend money, you can go for the "Bumble Bee Spider" morph I saw on one web page, listed for $45000.

I told someone about the all white BP shown on Bob Clark's web page, and that person commented, "Wow, that's probably worth like $1200 as a baby!"

I told him to try at least 40 times that. My guess is, if that all white is valued at less than $100K, I'd be very surprised. I don't know a lot about the values of the rare morphs, but if a variety of Spider morph is worth $45K, and multi-colored pieds are worth somewhere in the $25K to $35K range (at least some of the ones I've seen listed), a very rare all white is going to be worth far more than that.