Black Pastel Lines

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Originally Posted by TMurphy

Don't think there's a Graziani line.......:confused:

And Tom Barnhart's line of BP rocks!! :headbang:

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Greg Graziani proved out Cinnamon Pastel's not Black pastel's.;)

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Originally Posted by mattchibi

Just curious, how does one start their own "line" of black pastels? (or any morph)

Is it when they have imported a morph from Africa that looks like a different-looking black pastel and which proves out to be genetic?

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I think you can also start your own line if you start breeding the snakes for one certain trait. Like graziani pastels were bred for blushing and nerd lemon pastels were bred for color...etc

I work with the Gulf Coast Reptiles line http://stewartreptiles.com/?page_id=30

Wow so theres quite a few out there then, bioteacher those are some nice pictures and I'd be partial to agreeing with gardenfiend 138, those liesen line black pastels look very nice as do all the others :)! TMurphy I haven't heard of that line before do you have any pictures at all? I heard the same thing AJexotics, Emilio if your correct though do you think this mis-understanding could be due to confusion between the two morphs? Thats always interesting to know Deborah and again some lovely animals :), thanks for everyone's input so far!

Here is a Ian G. (Outback Reptiles) line female Black Pewter het Hypo at about 750g, you can see in she kept a lot of black and has not yellowed much at all, and look at the head blushing:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...ULIET_WM_1.jpg

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Originally Posted by AJexotics

I herd Ian G line black pastels are better if your going for the super form. stops "duck billing"

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I've heard that rumor also, I hope to find out this summer..

2500 gram female Ian G.(outback reptiles line) blush back black pastel X an Ian G. Line black pastel 50% pos het ghost
http://i968.photobucket.com/albums/a...s/IMG_0679.jpg
Scarlet ~ 08 black pastel female
http://i968.photobucket.com/albums/a...e/IMG_0896.jpg

Cosby ~ 2010 Black pastel 50% pos het ghost
http://i968.photobucket.com/albums/a...l/IMG_0411.jpg

I have read and heard that Barnhart and Liesen line Black pastels have the trick gene attached to them, which is why they are so twisted up :)

The Outback (Ian G.) line is nice, but I still love my Liesen line female - she is holding her black much better. I also heard the same about Outback reducing/preventing duck-billing... I'll also be finding out later this year as my Liesen female should be good to go.

Here's out VPI Black Satin line boy. The other lines I've heard of are Outback, GCR, and Liesen.

http://i859.photobucket.com/albums/a...IMG_4144-1.jpg

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Originally Posted by Pollard89

TMurphy I haven't heard of that line before do you have any pictures at all?

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No picts....Tom has an Onyx female on KS classifieds...or do a search on BLBC, he's done a couple threads there on his line of BPs

Wow I'm loving that VPI Satin jsmorphs2, and thanks for the info again TMurphy I'll be sure to check that out! Well snakesRkewl and bioteacher hopefully I'll be joining you in the attempt to produce supers, probably not until next year though, I've just picked up my female though who was collected for me in Hamm from Mike Willbanks :D!

http://www.facebook.com/media/set/?s...type=3&theater

Hopefully that link will work too cause I've never tried to upload a picture into a thread yet and the good old copy and paste doesn't work!