wishing bad things on people?

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Originally Posted by BallsUnlimited

If you really thought humans would play fair in anything then your sadly mistaken.

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No, I of all people, know that humans don't play fair. Which is why I won't really care if one of those dudes ends up as dinner.

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Originally Posted by Rylmad

It would be similar to filming a beef slaughterhouse and then wondering why fair chase was not allowed for the cows.

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Cows are domesticated live stock. The alligators the Swamp People hunt are wild. There is a bit of a difference even if the end result is similar.

Also, I never said I thought there should be fair chase, I just observed that there wasn't much.

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Originally Posted by mainbutter

Getting all emotional over the regulated harvest of wild animals that remind you of your pets makes you look like those furry-animal keepers who get emotional towards US for feeding rats to our reptiles, and wish harm towards us.

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How does an observation on fair chase vs. not fair chase = having an emotional reaction? No emotion here. Honestly, I couldn't give the square root of a rat's butt how they hunt gators, so long as they don't deplete the supply.

Now, if one of the Swamp People were to get eaten on an episode, I might get an emotion, but not the one you're alluding to...:D

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Originally Posted by Slim

How does an observation on fair chase vs. not fair chase = having an emotional reaction?

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Just to clarify, none of my comments were directed towards anyone in particular.

I do consider wishing people to be severely injured or killed to be pretty emotional.

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Originally Posted by mainbutter

I do consider wishing people to be severely injured or killed to be pretty emotional.

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While I will certainly conceed this point, I would beg some lattitude given the fact that I've spent 27 years in or working for the military. We strive toward taking the emotion out of that particular process. Not saying that is a good thing, or a bad thing, it just is what it is.

I have no problem with the harvesting, the methods they're using or the numbers they're taking.

You should also realize, quite a bit of the "fights" they show with the gator in the water is done with a dead gator. I noticed once a limp floppy leg during some thrashing about, and then started really WATCHING for it. Many of the underwater fighting is a tethered dead gator being slung around.

Even if all the fights were real with live gators, they're reeling them in as quickly as possible to shoot them. It's not about sporting or fair, it's just business. I don't feel like deer hunters should get gored to death, nor hog hunters get eaten up by a feral hog. I don't want a gator hunter to get bitten or killed by a gator just because he's doing a job his family has been doing for generations.

I do reserve the right to wish certain folks on tv would get mauled at least a little bit, but it's due to their personality and being complete jerks.... not just because they happen to harvest gators.

And gators taste good. Technically shouldn't everyone really support the gator hunting vs farming? I mean, everyone seems to scream about 'free range' being better... what's freer range than wild, right? LOL. That argument never works on most folks touting organice-freerange-whatever.

What they are doing is not hunting, it's trapping. I trap furbearers, and all i hear is how cruel it is. The show makes it seem like it's all about money, but in reality it's about adrenaline, being in touch with nature, and being able to outsmart a wild animal. Professional land trappers make a lot of money but the amount of wisdom they have is more outstanding. I assume that there is way more to trapping gators than we can tell from just watching swamp people. And the show does overdo the whole cajun thing. makes it seem like they have no education.

Ok here's my two cents. This thread started out kinda humorous. Ok maybe kinda dark humor but humorous none the less. I realize some people might not see the humor or the irony of a gator hunter getting ate by something he was trying to kill then sorry but I have a right to my sense of humor just like eyeryone else. I just think we do not need to turn every thing into a debate of morality. Or maybe we should so we have something to do tonight. Ha ha

I see humor in it, don't worry, you aren't alone.
I like the show, though. I think it's nice to see a fairly realistic portrayal of people working in a business that is taboo to most 'city folks'. It's quick and dirty. I appreciate the fact that they managed to make it dramatic without overdoing the Drama, or drawing things out.
As for the alligators...they're doing just fine, and frankly, I prefer to see food gathered this way, and would definitely prefer to eat it, over cows standing knee deep in their own poo in a feed lot being fed corn that loads their intestines with dangerous pathogenic bacteria.

Every once in a while, someone doing that job is going to lose a hand...or even their life. We do like the excitement that comes with watching people in danger. That's what 'Deadliest Catch' is all about, too.
It's also what the Colosseum in Rome was all about. It's part of human nature, for better or for worse (but, mostly, both).

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Originally Posted by WingedWolfPsion

I see humor in it, don't worry, you aren't alone.
I like the show, though. I think it's nice to see a fairly realistic portrayal of people working in a business that is taboo to most 'city folks'. It's quick and dirty. I appreciate the fact that they managed to make it dramatic without overdoing the Drama, or drawing things out.
As for the alligators...they're doing just fine, and frankly, I prefer to see food gathered this way, and would definitely prefer to eat it, over cows standing knee deep in their own poo in a feed lot being fed corn that loads their intestines with dangerous pathogenic bacteria.

Every once in a while, someone doing that job is going to lose a hand...or even their life. We do like the excitement that comes with watching people in danger. That's what 'Deadliest Catch' is all about, too.
It's also what the Colosseum in Rome was all about. It's part of human nature, for better or for worse (but, mostly, both).

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Well ok I agree. When I was a younger man I had the good fortune of being able to race open wheel race cars up and down the west coast. People would flock to those tracks some to see good racing but a lot of people just wanted to see crashes and flips the more the better. I understand peoples need to watch dangerous stuff and I was ok with that we all knew the risk. Now about alligator meat. I am sure wild caught gator is better tasting just like deer or elk taste better from the wild that is why we have chickens and buy most of our meat from a local family run butcher shop healthier and tastier . But I am not sure where to get gator meat where I live but I might try it . Does it taste like chicken? Ha ha

Gator tail does taste a little like chicken. Or at least more like chicken than like beef. A lot of gator meat is from farmed gators now.

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Originally Posted by wolfy-hound

Gator tail does taste a little like chicken. Or at least more like chicken than like beef. A lot of gator meat is from farmed gators now.

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I've had quite a bit of gator tail, and I think it taste like frog legs...guess that kinda' makes sense...