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Re: Is it bad to have two BP together ?
You will probably find most people say to house them seperately. I have heard of people housing them together with no problems. Only thing is, you can't feed them in the tank with two in there, if somebody regurges, you don't know who. While I think its not impossible, I think seperate enclosure is definately better, and more recommended. Also you could check out the kingsnake classifieds to find a snake. Along with the breeders on here.
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There is absolutely zero benefit to the snakes to be housed together, but there are many valid and legitimate reasons not to. Just do a quick forum search on cohabitation if you want to read all the reasons we say not to do it. Your snakes will do much better and ultimately be much healthier in their own enclosures.
To drama x, you really need to do some research and educate yourself before you start offering bad advice to new keepers who may not know the difference. Try looking up cohabitation yourself. It is especially a bad idea to house a male and female together. It is very possible that the snakes will breed before your female is ready, which could lead to her becoming egg bound and dying. But hey, your snakes not mine...
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To the OP, their are plenty of great breeders on this site that offer great Ball Pythons and will answer any questions that you have. Also, some of the bigger named breeders include jkobylkareptiles, Royal Constrictor Designs, BHB, and NERD to name a few.
And Drama x, the only time Ball Pythons should be kept together is for the short period of breeding. Inknsteel offered you some good information, so please rethink your husbandry.
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Here is my generic answer to questions like these:
Cohabitating reptiles even as the same species is not recommended. Insead of just telling you "no" I'll list the common reasons why.
1) Cannibalism, not common, but there are DOCUMENTED cases. This alone isn't worth the risk.
2) Stress. Even the most friendly snakes get stressed out, so why cause the stress? Snakes have no want or need to be with another snake unless it's for breeding purposes. Other than that, it's just an unwanted roommate that they can't get away from.
3) Space. They will constantly try to dominate eachother for the best spots in the enclosure, even if you have multiple hides, you'll mainly see them together in one spot. People usually see this as "cuddling". It's not cuddling, they are fighting over the best spot.
4) You wake up in the morning after feeding and there's a regurgitated mouse. Which one did it?
5) One gets sick, now both are sick. That's 2X the vet bills, 2X the medications, and 2X the stress.
6) You are told the new snake you bought is the same sex as the one you already have. a year later, you find eggs in the enclosure. You have not prepared, no incubator, no space for babies, and no one to sell them to. What do you do now? The pet store/vet/person sexed them wrong.
7) Quarantine. How are you going to quarantine the new snake away from your original one? As you gain more experience, you'll find that quarantine is a NECESSITY. You could get a perfectly healthy snake, or one covered in mite eggs that hatch 3 days after you bring it home. Now both snakes have mites. Snakes also can take a long time to start showing symptoms of illness, now you got your original snake sick because you didn't quarantine.
Those are just the more known and common issues with housing multiple reptiles. The list goes on. The only pro to housing them together is to save space in your house by only having one enclosure, but is it worth it? That is up to you. People that say "I house two together and they are fine", they are fine now but with them being housed together there is NO guarantee it will stay that way forever. The only way to avoid future issues is to house them separately.
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I once questioned whether or not to keep two snakes together. I read here that a dominant male can "lock" with another male if they are kept together in the same enclosure, sort of like prison rape.
That was enough for me.
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I'd never give anyone new to this hobby the advice to keep two ball pythons in the same enclosure. My question would be why would you be thinking of doing it? Is it because you want to save money housing them because you cant afford a new tank? If that's it then don't buy a new snake until you can afford to house two snakes. If its due to space issues same thing applies and wait until you have the space. If its because you think they need a companion that is not the case with ball pythons.
I struggle to even think of one reason to put them both in the same enclosure other than to breed.
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Re: Is it bad to have two BP together ?
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Originally Posted by drama x
I have a male and female housed together and their perfectly fine, frown upon it if you want.
Just my $.02
I also see that you have no ball pythons, so your advice doesnt really apply here, and ball pythons should be housed separately.
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Re: Is it bad to have two BP together ?
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Originally Posted by LGray23
Here is my generic answer to questions like these:
Cohabitating reptiles even as the same species is not recommended. Insead of just telling you "no" I'll list the common reasons why.
1) Cannibalism, not common, but there are DOCUMENTED cases. This alone isn't worth the risk.
2) Stress. Even the most friendly snakes get stressed out, so why cause the stress? Snakes have no want or need to be with another snake unless it's for breeding purposes. Other than that, it's just an unwanted roommate that they can't get away from.
3) Space. They will constantly try to dominate eachother for the best spots in the enclosure, even if you have multiple hides, you'll mainly see them together in one spot. People usually see this as "cuddling". It's not cuddling, they are fighting over the best spot.
4) You wake up in the morning after feeding and there's a regurgitated mouse. Which one did it?
5) One gets sick, now both are sick. That's 2X the vet bills, 2X the medications, and 2X the stress.
6) You are told the new snake you bought is the same sex as the one you already have. a year later, you find eggs in the enclosure. You have not prepared, no incubator, no space for babies, and no one to sell them to. What do you do now? The pet store/vet/person sexed them wrong.
7) Quarantine. How are you going to quarantine the new snake away from your original one? As you gain more experience, you'll find that quarantine is a NECESSITY. You could get a perfectly healthy snake, or one covered in mite eggs that hatch 3 days after you bring it home. Now both snakes have mites. Snakes also can take a long time to start showing symptoms of illness, now you got your original snake sick because you didn't quarantine.
Those are just the more known and common issues with housing multiple reptiles. The list goes on. The only pro to housing them together is to save space in your house by only having one enclosure, but is it worth it? That is up to you. People that say "I house two together and they are fine", they are fine now but with them being housed together there is NO guarantee it will stay that way forever. The only way to avoid future issues is to house them separately.
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Exactly what Lgray23 said. I cannot emphasize enough to house 2 balls separately. The only time to house 2 balls together in the same enclosure is for breeding.
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theres a cage on animalplastics.com that is pretty big with a wall in the middle so you can have 2 snakes that never see eachother in it and check out bhbreptiles.com they have ALOT of different snakes from babies up to adults
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You could also probably split a larger tank with a piece of plexi (but that won't allow you to QT your new pet which is highly advisable) OR two tub set-ups aren't really that expensive.
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