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  • 02-03-2012, 07:41 PM
    Jor23dan
    But yes i agree that there are definatly better morphs than panda pieds even though i do like them
  • 02-03-2012, 07:42 PM
    Slim
    Re: I want to start breeding bp
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by mhayter81 View Post
    I have always been into snakes. I want to start breeding ball pythons. I have $1000 to put into just snakes. What snakes would you start off with to breed to make money to get more? How many male how many female? Thank you

    This hobby is already full of "breeders" who want to make money. If you want to breed snakes because it's your passion, then knock yourself out, but if you're in it to make money, you'll be very disapointed in the end. Breeding snakes is often a money losing proposition for even the most established breeders.
  • 02-03-2012, 07:43 PM
    Jor23dan
    That is very true i will agree
  • 02-03-2012, 08:01 PM
    jdouglas
    Re: I want to start breeding bp
    Personally if I had 1 grand to spend on just snakes now and I wanted to breed I would pick up 3 females. And start to raise them in 1 1/2- 2 years I would have saved up enough to pick up a powerhouse male to go with them.

    Then for the next year I would spend building racks to house at least 25 hatchlings. I don't think it would be very cool to have more eggs than room to put them. And get an incubator.

    And most likely even if I sold every hatchling, It probably wouldn't cover the costs of the original 4 snakes, housing, incubator, food, thermostats, electric bill, and heating.
  • 02-03-2012, 09:29 PM
    mhayter81
    Re: I want to start breeding bp
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by jdouglas View Post
    Personally if I had 1 grand to spend on just snakes now and I wanted to breed I would pick up 3 females. And start to raise them in 1 1/2- 2 years I would have saved up enough to pick up a powerhouse male to go with them.

    Then for the next year I would spend building racks to house at least 25 hatchlings. I don't think it would be very cool to have more eggs than room to put them. And get an incubator.

    And most likely even if I sold every hatchling, It probably wouldn't cover the costs of the original 4 snakes, housing, incubator, food, thermostats, electric bill, and heating.

    im starting to think i might go that way
  • 02-03-2012, 09:29 PM
    snake lab
    Re: I want to start breeding bp
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Jor23dan View Post
    he could try for pandas for $1000. It wouldnt be fast money because it would take about 5 years but he could get a pied and black pastel raise them up breed them and then take the black pastel het pieds and breed them for pandas. Its only like 6% chance of getting them but even still black pastel het pieds go for a pretty good amount of money too.

    No offense but do you know how many pandas have been produced? I have about 6 grand tied up in that project at this point and no pandas. Or even close. Theres more to that project then just your basic genetics. Trust me.
  • 02-03-2012, 09:36 PM
    snake lab
    Re: I want to start breeding bp
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Slim View Post
    This hobby is already full of "breeders" who want to make money. If you want to breed snakes because it's your passion, then knock yourself out, but if you're in it to make money, you'll be very disapointed in the end. Breeding snakes is often a money losing proposition for even the most established breeders.

    Lmao not true. You can make plenty of money. The people that say you cant are people doing it wrong. Look i understand the majority of people that post on the forums are not breeders but hobbyists or pet owners. Nothing at all wrong with that but it sems that whenever a thread pops up about making money with snakes it tends to turn as if its a bad thing. If there were no money in it then you would not see snakes valued as high as they are. You would not see the market the way it is. There is plenty of money to be made and plenty of room for more good breeders. 15 years ago i remember you could count the big guns on 2 hands. Now you have so many reputable breeders throwing crazy animals. And yes the market is there.
  • 02-03-2012, 09:49 PM
    k8nkane
    Re: I want to start breeding bp
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by snake lab View Post
    You can make plenty of money. The people that say you cant are people doing it wrong. If there were no money in it then you would not see snakes valued as high as they are. You would not see the market the way it is. There is plenty of money to be made

    If this were true, dog breeders would be millionaires and I have yet to see one.

    The people who make gobs of money off breeding ANYthing are often the people that take shortcuts at some point in the process and therefore, turn out an inferior product.
  • 02-03-2012, 09:55 PM
    snake lab
    Re: I want to start breeding bp
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by k8nkane View Post
    If this were true, dog breeders would be millionaires and I have yet to see one.

    The people who make gobs of money off breeding ANYthing are often the people that take shortcuts at some point in the process and therefore, turn out an inferior product.

    Again not true lol. Dogs have specific bloodlines that need to be carefully and selectively bred. Plus the good dog breeders make their dogs worth money by showing them. Therefore the selective litters are worth more. I do know alittle about the dog world. One of my best friends of 20 years is dave wilson of razors edge kennels. Ive been very involved in the bully movement. Snakes are no where close to dogs when it comes to breeding and selling offspring. And with the abkc, atomic dog magazine, blow genes clothing, razors edge entertainment and the kennels i would say dave is one dog breeder that proves your statement as false.
  • 02-03-2012, 09:56 PM
    snakesRkewl
    Re: I want to start breeding bp
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by k8nkane View Post
    The people who make gobs of money off breeding ANYthing are often the people that take shortcuts at some point in the process and therefore, turn out an inferior product.

    If you know what you are doing there is plenty of money to be made and you do not need to take short cuts.
    I love people saying there's no money in it, leaves more for us that know better :D

    OP, please get a few snakes as pets before thinking about breeding, baby steps, learning to walk before you run so to speak.
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