New here, Azanthic Killer Bee

I would suggest that you read up on recessive genetics and co-dominate genetics, that might make things easier. Here in the ball python world we don't use the genetics terms 100% correctly but they are close enough that it should help reduce your confusion.

If I wanted to produce an axanthic Killer bee I would purchase a male axanthic super pastel, and breed it to a female killer bee 100% het axanthic.

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Originally Posted by aalomon

That would just give you an axanthic bumblebee. Killerbee isnt possible because only one parent has the pastel gene.

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Doh, ty for the correction :D

I seen a male Bumble Bee 100% het axanthic for $1500 and female for $1200 recently.

Personally, I get the female first. You can be putting size on her while saving/looking for the male a year or so later. You will more than likely save a few dollars that way also.

Check out Ozzie Boids, he has alot of the combos for this.

Okay, so i wont go through and quote everyone, just for times sake. But i think i get the basics of whats going on for what i want to do. i think, im going to go with what the serpent merchant said, just due to the odds, Granted there arent as many different outcomes, the possible outcomes i feel i like a little bettter. So what it comes down to is Im in the market for a female killer bee het axanthic, and a male axanthic super pastel, Possibly vice versa, im not sure. I may still have a few questions, but ill read up and post back with them if i cant figure them out. Which leads me to my final question (for the moment ;) ) Are there any reputable dealers that can ship easily, (if at all possible?), Im going to get the female first, so its a matter of the killer bee het Axanthic or axanthic super pastel which is going to be my female. So who knows a dealer? haha

Thank you all for the help, ill probably have more questions so feel free to check back and help out a rookie? :D

The breeders that I'm about to list are all reputable and can ship, but I can't say if they will have what you are looking for. They don't list all of their snakes on their websites so you will have to call/email them.

http://www.jkobylkareptiles.com/index.php

http://www.ralphdavisreptiles.com/

http://pythonregius.com/

By the way the reason why I said to go with a male axanthic super pastel and a female killer bee 100% het is because it should be a good bit cheep we than the other way around... But in no way is this project going to be cheep no matter what snakes you pair.

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Originally Posted by SeventySix

Okay, so i wont go through and quote everyone, just for times sake. But i think i get the basics of whats going on for what i want to do. i think, im going to go with what the serpent merchant said, just due to the odds, Granted there arent as many different outcomes, the possible outcomes i feel i like a little bettter. So what it comes down to is Im in the market for a female killer bee het axanthic, and a male axanthic super pastel, Possibly vice versa, im not sure. I may still have a few questions, but ill read up and post back with them if i cant figure them out. Which leads me to my final question (for the moment ;) ) Are there any reputable dealers that can ship easily, (if at all possible?), Im going to get the female first, so its a matter of the killer bee het Axanthic or axanthic super pastel which is going to be my female. So who knows a dealer? haha

Thank you all for the help, ill probably have more questions so feel free to check back and help out a rookie? :D

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Super Pastel Axanthics and Killer Bee 100% Het Axanthics are few and far between right now...

IMO Your best bet is to get a Bumble Bee Het Axanthic female now...They are reasonably priced and there's a few for sale right now...Then next year get a Pastel Axanthic or Pastel Axanthic combo male to breed to the female.

If you go with two Super Pastels on both sides and you won't get any variety in the clutch...Everything will be Super Pastels or Killers and the 2 Ax versions...

Pastel Ax. x BB Het Ax will produce 12 different combos! Although you could miss on the Killer Bee Axanthic this way! LOL

Haha, yeah well thats what i was saying, granted i wont have as many outcomes, but the chances for the killer bee were a bit higher. Something i dont want to miss out on ;) haha

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The breeders that I'm about to list are all reputable and can ship, but I can't say if they will have what you are looking for. They don't list all of their snakes on their websites so you will have to call/email them.

http://www.jkobylkareptiles.com/index.php

http://www.ralphdavisreptiles.com/

http://pythonregius.com/

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Thanks!

Personally if I could get a clutch that consisted of Super Pastels and Killer Bees... let alone Axanthic Super Pastels and Axanthic Killer Bees I would be more than pleased. sure there is more diversity in other combinations, but at least to me they are less desirable morphs (as in the pairing that I recommended will yield snakes that can easily produce the other possibilities of other pairings) and will almost guarantee that you get an Axanthic Killer bee the first time. other pairings might take a few tries to hit the axanthic killer bee.