Federal snake ban has reptile dealers fuming

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Originally Posted by Giftbearer

He said in his State of the Union Address tonight that he doesn't support such government regulation that can be handled by the citizens themselves.



This is a Florida issue that got blown way out of proportion.

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Wonder what he meant by "he doesn't support such government regulation that can be handled by the citizens themselves"? I don't watch media or pay attention to politics much, heck I don't even watch or own a TV. I don't see how this whole Everglades situation or snake ban can be handled by citizens.

I don't just think this is just a Florida issue at all. The Everglades support life from all over the world. Over 200 non-native species of birds migrate to Everglades. If the Everglades are threatened so are the natives and migratory animals.

Why would anyone release their Exotic Snake into the Everglades!! GRR!

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Originally Posted by Skiploder

Everyone needs to educate themselves on what happened and what happens when you challenge an amendment or rule change to the Lacey Act.

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I'm not sure I follow what you're saying here? Do you have an article or something that you could link us to...I'm not even sure what to search here. Sorry if I seem ignorant on this.

Thank you,

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Originally Posted by Logic_is_me_sv

Wonder what he meant by "he doesn't support such government regulation that can be handled by the citizens themselves"? I don't watch media or pay attention to politics much, heck I don't even watch or own a TV. I don't see how this whole Everglades situation or snake ban can be handled by citizens.

I don't just think this is just a Florida issue at all. The Everglades support life from all over the world. Over 200 non-native species of birds migrate to Everglades. If the Everglades are threatened so are the natives and migratory animals.

Why would anyone release their Exotic Snake into the Everglades!! GRR!

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I wouldnt follow much obama says. He hasnt kept any promises. The state of the union address was just a speech so he could poke out his chest and beat on it a bit to say look at me im trying but congress is against me. Hes just campaigning. As far as the glades go this is a south florida problem only. These snakes cant survive above south florida. Not to mention the 2010 winter did so much damage to most of the invasive pythons and killed the majority of them off. The usgs surveys are so flawed. And the problem wasnt created from people releasing pythons although im sure some people did release some. The real problem stemmed from when hurricane andrew ripped through there destroying reptile breeding facilities and blowing thousands of snakes into the glades. A bit of information the usgs, fwc and ushs didnt make public in their findings. This ban stinks to high heaven.

Reading the comments, I knew this was going to happen. I watched as people suggested we have big breeders come out and speak against the bill, that's the opposite of what we need. There is no better villain than someone who makes money off of the lives of animals. So easy to turn this into a situation of greed and abuse to those who don't know better. People never want to support the guy who's going to lose money. We need more pet owners who aren't losing any money off this ban to speak up--those who spend their money giving the snake the right enclosure, taking perfect care of it, and who treat it and can talk about it like another pet. It's harder to make a responsible pet owner a villain than it is to make a breeder a villain. Just the word breeder sets most dog owners into a fury. Sigh.

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Originally Posted by snake lab

And the problem wasnt created from people releasing pythons although im sure some people did release some. The real problem stemmed from when hurricane andrew ripped through there destroying reptile breeding facilities and blowing thousands of snakes into the glades. .

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If wether conditions can destroy breeding facilities/homes with snakes causing their release then having Exotic Snakes is a obvious threat. The snake ban sucks but having thousands of Exptic Snakes roam and populate the Everglades sucks even more.

If what you're saying about Hurricane Andrew is true. Then all it takes is 1 time for them to be released and populate. Who's to say it won't ever happen again. This reason alone is stronger then blaming it on people that released their pets.

There not much anyone can say to someone when they say " these large constrictors are being banned because of people releasing them and also wether conditions like hurricanes/wildfires/earthquakes/ect destroy their facilities and free them".

Yes your right but another part of this glades situation was not talked about. The winter of 2010 killed off a devestating number of these pythons. Proving even more that they cant survive very long even in south florida. And to purplemuffin. This is an industry therefore there is worth that needs to be shown. If you dont show the govt how much tax money they are going to loose then why would they care that you should be allowed to own and sell snakes? Its always about money. Its one thing to post up on a soap box and campaign to be able to own these snakes as an owner but its alot more effective to show this as an industry in danger of being shut down and alot of tax dollars lost if this continues. And back to logic. What your saying about weather is true to som extent but bad weather and acts of god has also caused oil tankers to run aground and leak tons of oil into the ecosystems of this world. Does that mean we should ban oil too. I know its not the same thing but acts of god are acts of god. Bottom line is this is a south florida issue that the weather caused and actually with the frosts from 2010 the weather has also taken care of it. The whole truth of the situation needs to come out. Not just some insufficient surveys.