Didnt know that about Bumble Bee's

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Originally Posted by hurricaNe

Whats your thoughts on the "bumble Bee vs. Butter" should i take the risk and buy the bumble bee? Or go with a butter.:taz:

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I personally like that bee better than that butter but what I think doesn't matter. Which one do you like better?

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Originally Posted by The Serpent Merchant

No it's not. It is extremely overstated on the Internet, and cases bad enough to cause actual issues are rare. I'm holding my spider right now, and his head will start to wobble just a bit, but he doesn't seem to mind so neither do I.

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Great because ive really got my mind set on a bumble bee.

I already told the breeder i want him for tuesday, ive been trying to find one and have been really excited for one. The Bumble Bee is my choice

I just honestly hope the wobble doesnt get really bad :(

There is no way to treat it if lets say it starts to get real bad?

I think consensus is that it's a very variable issue but its potential lives in every single spider. If you're not cool with it, I'd advise not to get a snake with the spider gene. I didn't do my homework and while I enjoy my bee and wouldn't give him back at this point, I would have bought a non-neurologically impaired snake if I could go back in time. He functions perfectly fine by the way.

I think the other consensus is that if the guy is claiming the snake doesn't wobble AT ALL, then it means A) he's playing with words by telling you that it doesn't wobble... what he means is he hasn't observed it express the wobble or B) he's straight up lying to you.

If it's something that gives you a little bit of a negative visceral reaction like it does to me, I'd advise against it. There are plenty of other morphs out there that don't have issues.

Wobble isn't a sickness, it is a neurological disorder that causes some of them to have difficulty in sensing which way is up and which way is down. It is like the inner ear in humans.

So no there isn't anything that can be done.

Im not really bothered by it just upset about it in general, its a shame, but im still going to go through with it. Hes not lying, hes a trusted breeder around here, i spoke to another local friend breeder who says hes done business with this guy before : WWW.legendboas.com

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Originally Posted by MrLang

I think consensus is that it's a very variable issue but its potential lives in every single spider. If you're not cool with it, I'd advise not to get a snake with the spider gene. I didn't do my homework and while I enjoy my bee and wouldn't give him back at this point, I would have bought a non-neurologically impaired snake if I could go back in time. He functions perfectly fine by the way.

I think the other consensus is that if the guy is claiming the snake doesn't wobble AT ALL, then it means A) he's playing with words by telling you that it doesn't wobble... what he means is he hasn't observed it express the wobble or B) he's straight up lying to you.

If it's something that gives you a little bit of a negative visceral reaction like it does to me, I'd advise against it. There are plenty of other morphs out there that don't have issues.

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You might want to watch your words with possibly accusing someone of lying.

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Originally Posted by LotsaBalls

You might want to watch your words with possibly accusing someone of lying.

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x2, Not all spiders wobbles are noticeable...

Wobbles are also expressed differently. Sometimes it's a true wobble, other times it's a corkscrew, my guy has a slight head tilt 24/7. Only time he wobbles is when he is excited (feeding or breeding) or stressed. He will do a single corkscrew once in a blue moon.

His daughter is the same way, only wobbles when excited during feeding. Never seen her corkscrew.

They eat, shed, breed the same way as other morphs, so it doesn't bother them.

Also, they are a dominant morph, so it is expressed in the wild and they survive well enough to grow into adults.