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  • 01-18-2012, 02:05 AM
    Adam Chandler
    Quote:

    So are u saying if I make black platinum x black platinum I should get super black pastel super lesser. Which is black and white.
    No, it would not be black and white.

    You are missing the Pied part of Panda Pied.

    Panda Pied = Super Black Pastel & Piebald

    BEL genes are not a factor.
  • 01-18-2012, 02:10 AM
    RobNJ
    Re: Super black pastel x blue eyed lucy
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by perfectpythons View Post
    So are u saying if I make black platinum x black platinum I should get super black pastel super lesser. Which is black and white.

    That's not where he was going with that. The leucism made by the lesser x lesser would/should wash away the black made by the black pastel x black pastel.
  • 01-18-2012, 02:16 AM
    perfectpythons
    Oops my bad. Lol
  • 01-18-2012, 02:20 AM
    Meltdown Morphs
    Re: Super black pastel x blue eyed lucy
    A simple answer
    No. You cant make a Panda pied (super black pastel x Piebald)
    from a Super black pastel x Lucy.

    To make a Panda pied you need:

    Black pastel het pied x Black pastel het pied
    OR Black pastel Pied x Black Pastel Pied
    OR Black pastel Pied x Black pastel het pied
    Or Super Black Pastel het pied x Black Pastel het pied. etc..

    basically both parents will need to contribute a black pastel and a pied gene in some way.

    There is no Lucy in a Panda Pied , there is no other short cutting to the Panda unfortunately.
  • 01-18-2012, 02:22 AM
    perfectpythons
    Re: Super black pastel x blue eyed lucy
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Adam Chandler View Post
    No, it would not be black and white.

    You are missing the Pied part of Panda Pied.

    Panda Pied = Super Black Pastel & Piebald

    BEL genes are not a factor.

    I'm sorry if I get this totally wrong again but if I just mix super black pastel x pied will that make panda pied or will the super black pastel just dominate the pied. Sorry for the stupid questions I would normally use world of ball pythons / genetic wizard 3.0 but it doesn't work for supers. Thank you guys for answering though. :)
  • 01-18-2012, 02:35 AM
    Meltdown Morphs
    Re: Super black pastel x blue eyed lucy
    Super black pastel x Pied = All Black pastel het Pied babies,

    as in they all physically look like black pastels but also carry the piebald gene as well since piebald is recessive and black pastel is co-dominant
  • 01-18-2012, 02:43 AM
    Adam Chandler
    Re: Super black pastel x blue eyed lucy
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by perfectpythons View Post
    I'm sorry if I get this totally wrong again but if I just mix super black pastel x pied will that make panda pied or will the super black pastel just dominate the pied. Sorry for the stupid questions I would normally use world of ball pythons / genetic wizard 3.0 but it doesn't work for supers. Thank you guys for answering though. :)

    If you breed a Super Black Pastel to a Piebald you will end up wih all Black Pastels het Piebalds. The trick to the Panda Pied is getting 2 Black Pastel and 2 Piebald genes into the same BP.

    If you took 2 of those Black Pastel het Pieds and bred them together you would have a small chance of making your Panda Pied.

    Genetic Wizard 3.0 calculations by
    http://www.worldofballpythons.com/gfx/logo.png
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