where is my black pastel??

The head shape of black pastels and cinnamons is simply different, and after you get used to that, it's not that hard to spot. There's a nice profile head shot on number 2 that shows the slender snout of a black pastel, and also the nice dark head color associated wtih it.
The markings on that snake bear it out, as well.

Folks who are confused as to the number of snakes need to look more carefully. ;)

Also the first photo of snake #2 shows one of the side blotches with a dark shadow ring above it, typical of a black pastel. It's REALLY hard to see, because the photos are dark, blurry, and from a horrible angle. I didn't see that until I looked a lot closer just now, because the head shape and color was a dead giveaway.

#2 is a black pastel, and no mistake about it. :)

Agreed! #2, he is a funky one though. Let's see some better pics.

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Originally Posted by WingedWolfPsion

The head shape of black pastels and cinnamons is simply different, and after you get used to that, it's not that hard to spot. There's a nice profile head shot on number 2 that shows the slender snout of a black pastel, and also the nice dark head color associated wtih it.
The markings on that snake bear it out, as well.

Folks who are confused as to the number of snakes need to look more carefully. ;)

Also the first photo of snake #2 shows one of the side blotches with a dark shadow ring above it, typical of a black pastel. It's REALLY hard to see, because the photos are dark, blurry, and from a horrible angle. I didn't see that until I looked a lot closer just now, because the head shape and color was a dead giveaway.

#2 is a black pastel, and no mistake about it. :)

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Well, when you put it that way...:) Thanks for clearing up my confusion.

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Originally Posted by LotsaBalls

Number two. Donuts and squiggles.

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I have a few with donuts and sguiggles. They came from dinkers and look like those. But I think mine are "normals".

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Originally Posted by WingedWolfPsion

The head shape of black pastels and cinnamons is simply different, and after you get used to that, it's not that hard to spot. There's a nice profile head shot on number 2 that shows the slender snout of a black pastel, and also the nice dark head color associated wtih it.
The markings on that snake bear it out, as well.

Folks who are confused as to the number of snakes need to look more carefully. ;)

Also the first photo of snake #2 shows one of the side blotches with a dark shadow ring above it, typical of a black pastel. It's REALLY hard to see, because the photos are dark, blurry, and from a horrible angle. I didn't see that until I looked a lot closer just now, because the head shape and color was a dead giveaway.

#2 is a black pastel, and no mistake about it. :)

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I don't think this is a black pastel, but it has the dark ring above the side blotches......
http://i199.photobucket.com/albums/a...8/DSC_0054.jpg

my black pastel
http://i991.photobucket.com/albums/a...lhetghostF.jpg

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Originally Posted by smd58

my black pastel
http://i991.photobucket.com/albums/a...lhetghostF.jpg

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Now to me THAT is a Black Pastel

I'm not seeing black pastels in any of the three :confuzd:

I see it.

Number 2 is a poor example of a black pastel, but a black pastel nonetheless.

The squiggles by themselves don't always mean black pastel, but added to the head shape and to a lesser degree coloration, they can tell you you have a black pastel.

Gale