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BEL x pied

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  • 12-11-2011, 02:26 PM
    Dave Green
    I produced a lesser pied this year from a lesser het pied x pied breeding. I bred a lesser to a pied a couple years ago and produced a couple male lessers het for pied. I then bred him back to a pied female. Here are the results, perfect odds as well...

    http://i405.photobucket.com/albums/p...piedclutch.jpg
  • 12-11-2011, 02:43 PM
    Sean Hall
    Great looking babies! Outstanding clutch!


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  • 12-11-2011, 05:35 PM
    Brandon Osborne
    Re: BEL x pied
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by that_dc5 View Post
    A lesser pied will be all white, but you'd have to breed a lesser het pied x lesser het pied.

    I'm pretty sure a Lesser Pied is 100% white and can be produced by breeding lesser het pied X pied. I might be wrong but that's what I remember the original animals being. I don't think the genetics are as cut and dry as they were thought to be when combining these two morphs.
  • 12-12-2011, 12:33 AM
    TheSnakeEye
    Re: BEL x pied
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Brandon Osborne View Post
    I'm pretty sure a Lesser Pied is 100% white and can be produced by breeding lesser het pied X pied. I might be wrong but that's what I remember the original animals being. I don't think the genetics are as cut and dry as they were thought to be when combining these two morphs.

    That's what I meant... same difference. het. pied won't give you an all white snake, only Lesser and the full visual pied.... But if i had to choose I'd do Lesser het. pied x Lesser het. Pied and hopefully get a BEL Pied ;)
  • 12-12-2011, 02:47 AM
    ReptilesK2
    Re: BEL x pied
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Brandon Osborne View Post
    I'm pretty sure a Lesser Pied is 100% white and can be produced by breeding lesser het pied X pied. I might be wrong but that's what I remember the original animals being. I don't think the genetics are as cut and dry as they were thought to be when combining these two morphs.

    That's actually correct though :P
  • 12-12-2011, 03:11 PM
    WingedWolfPsion
    Not all lesser pieds are pure white.
    Here's an adult lesser pied: http://www.worldofballpythons.com/fi...r-pied/002.jpg

    You can see that, while lesser pieds tend to be extreme high white, they're not always all white.

    A BEL pied would be 100% white, of course. BEL is super-lesser. BEL is 100% white, and pied simply adds white patches and disrupts pattern, so good luck distinguishing a BEL pied from a BEL. :)
    I guess you'd have to test breed it to a pied for a couple of years, to see if all the offspring turned out pied.

    It would be quite the desirable animal to have as a breeder, though, even if it looked no different from a typical BEL.
  • 12-12-2011, 04:05 PM
    Brandon Osborne
    Might as well be 100% white at that point. I love high white pieds as much as low and med whites, but I'm not dying to have a 100% white pied. I'm adding enchi to my cinny and pewter pied projects...hopefully this season. My male enchi is a tad small but I'll give it a shot if he is up for it. I have plans for him and my pewter pied girl. This will prove his het pied status as well.
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