Breeding Bumble Bee To Bumble Bee

Any idea on question about pastel super pastel visual (scroll up a couple posts)
would it be smarter to start with 3 female pastels and one male spider (im also trying to keep the babies from seperate parents to continue breeding babies after first clutch without inbreeding)

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Originally Posted by BPNoobie

Any idea on question about pastel super pastel visual (scroll up a couple posts)
would it be smarter to start with 3 female pastels and one male spider (im also trying to keep the babies from seperate parents to continue breeding babies after first clutch without inbreeding)

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No such thing as a pastel super pastel lol. Either its a pastel or super pastel.

Buy the 3 females first if your getting hatchlings and get the male the following year. Females take 2-3 years to mature, but males only take about 6 months to a year.

From what I've gathered, you can't miss a super pastel compared to a pastel, especially right out of the egg. Super pastels are super blushed out and have very significantly faded heads.
Super pastel
Pastel

thanks, yeah probably hatchlings no idea where I could get mature females or males for that matter

check faunaclassifieds.com as well as kingsnake.com

In regards to genetic wizard, you need to know the genetic make up of combos. In your example of bumblebee, click on pastel and then click on spider while holding the command button. You can add 2, 3, or more genes this way. If you aren't sure what the genetics of a particular combo are, reference the morph list which will have the genetics listed.

If you like bumblebees, I would suggest buying a female one. Skip the trying to make them. They have come down in price enough that if your looking at buying four snakes just start with two gene females. Maybe get just two of them to start like a bee and a Lemonblast. Then get male something next year.

you'd be better off doing bee x super pastel as spider is a dominant gene and you wont getting anything unique from it. Or even bee x lemon blast, but with the 4 you are starting with you can make bees and super pastels.

I also recommend getting a visual bee at first however, if you can.

Also, I wouldn't be worrying about inbreeding yet.

Thats so funny I've been sitting here crunching the numbers on every combo of breedxbreed and I came to the conclusion that Super Pastel X Bumble Bee seems to be the most rewarding, my goal is to in the end/long run end up with Axanthic Killer Bees but even starting at the Super Pastel x Bumble bee I'd still have to breed a Killer Bee to an axanthic to get Killer Bee het axanthic and yet still breed that to my axanthic correct?

EDIT: Keep in mind my budget for BP's themselves is like 1.1K MAX after building rack etc

well, a killer bee is super pastel spider axanthic, therefore if you breed it to an axanthic you would get pastel het axanthics and bee het axanthics, but not killer bees. If you bred it to a pastel axanthic, you could get killer bee axanthics though.

After that, you'll need to breed it back to a pastel axanthic again, to ensure a pastel gene from each parent, however at that rate you only need your bee het axanthic.

I would invest in the bee, super pastel, and a pastel axanthic.