Need Opinions and ID Help Please

Got bit for the first time today! Little bugger tagged me on the way outside. Didnt even strike,just opened its mouth and chomped my palm. I just fed him yesterday!

Anyways, took a bunch of outside pics but its overcast still so most of the pics had a dull,greyish look but heres a few that came out correctly. Now that i look at him outside,he does have a browned out pastel look to his coloring...but it cant be pastel,the eyes are black...black black,no brown glow or anything.

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this one has the kind of dull,greyish color. But you can see that clear belly all the way down
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http://i585.photobucket.com/albums/s...s/IMAG0750.jpg

I'm sorry, I still only see normal there...all 3 of my normals very in shades but they have the yellow on the sides that almost give it the "browned out pastel" look. One is also really high white. They vary so much, the only thing he could possibly be is het for something.

Sorry, i dont know why the pics are appearing all these different sizes again. Theyre all the same size,but posting differently. I hate having to use photobucket. I should be able to upload straight from my phone or pc.

I personally see low quality pastel. I stick by my original prognosis LOL

Again though,pastels have those greenish eyes...comes with the pastel mutation. This guy has the darkest eyes on a BP ive seen so far. Theres only two or three flames in total on the animal, not really any blushing,and a slightly faded head. Pastel just doesnt seem to fit much.

If im lucky though,maybe i can prove out a black eyed pastel and get some sort of neat super. Lol. I can wish,right?!

I'm sorry I have to disagree with pastel. He's just not. I've seen this before and it's pretty common in younger balls. The yellowing on the sides will fade with age. I have a couple here right now that are 100% normal but have gorgeous yellow blushing on the sides. You could try and prove het out but not knowing what for could be hard.


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k well im calling it a she which i sure think it is but i love the yellowish sides ive had that on one of my normals before but ive had so many colored normals its not even funny very cute girl though

I would start with breeding to a norm. this guy/girl is a het. as white as the belly is, and the pattern doesn't cross anywhere on the belly. Breed her/him to a norm, see what you get.:P if you get all norms, then he/she is a norm.

Looks like a nice normal. I have several that have the yellow that comes out from under the darker saddles.

Also the pics are not the best, no offense, to be making pos ids online. Lighting changes the colour of snakes so much

Bruce

It wasnt the yellow that threw me off. My normal girls all have an impressive amount of yellow on the sides as well...with the exception of my reduced girl anyways. It was the belly and pattern that made me really excited. Two of my girls have a clean belly...sorta like his...but i know it can happen n mean nothing. The pattern,however, is pretty neat. All those donuts and stetching heads...idk. Anyways, majority rules...normal. Im happy either way,i still have plans to breed him/her out to try n replicate the pattern.

Sorry again about the pics. I know the flash got in the way on the first set and the second was bad due to overcast, but the first pic on this page captures the color exactly.
Ill update yall when i check under the hood ;)