Abnormal Bee?

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Originally Posted by lunapoo

I do not think it is abnormal. Sadly, i think you just produced or bought a very low quality bee.
But, it is defiantly not a spider. just a not so good bee. :(

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She is the ugly duckling of the clutch for sure, but it sounds like there will be no swan at the end of this story...lol

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Originally Posted by joebad976

Looks like a spider to me

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Why would you think it's a spider? Maybe you can't tell the difference? It's very obviously a low quality bee. Sorry man better luck next clutch and i've heard of low quality morphs producing high quality morphs so you can still use her.

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Originally Posted by evan385

Why would you think it's a spider? Maybe you can't tell the difference? It's very obviously a low quality bee. Sorry man better luck next clutch and i've heard of low quality morphs producing high quality morphs so you can still use her.

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I can't complain about the clutch. 7 eggs= 3 Bumble bees, 3 pastels and 1 normal. I hope to hit odds like those in the future.

One "dirty" bee isn't too bad.

not trying to sound rude or whatever but if you want to avoid this same scenario in the future I wouldn't breed it

people hold back holdbacks for a reason

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Originally Posted by SkYyame

not trying to sound rude or whatever but if you want to avoid this same scenario in the future I wouldn't breed it

people hold back holdbacks for a reason

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She's definitly not the nicest bee, but she IS a 2 gene animal. To me that's a better breeder that a "normal".

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Originally Posted by MS2

I can't complain about the clutch. 7 eggs= 3 Bumble bees, 3 pastels and 1 normal. I hope to hit odds like those in the future.

One "dirty" bee isn't too bad.

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Awesome, I hope I have that kind of luck when I breed my pastel and spider in a couple years.

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Originally Posted by MS2

She's definitly not the nicest bee, but she IS a 2 gene animal. To me that's a better breeder that a "normal".

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Personally, I would rather have a really nice normal or one gene snake, than a low quality two gene snake....
If I were to keep that bee, she would be a pet only.

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Originally Posted by MS2

I was just thinking that she looked odd( having no yellow, AT ALL), but I guess it happens more than I thought. I have never seen a bumble bee for sale that looks like her. Do breeders that produces these "dirty" bees sell them or just not even offer them for sale?

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I think a lot of times the photos you see the most of a given morph are of really nice specimens of that morph. If you do a Google image search for "pastel ball python" you get a whole bunch of pictures of nice pastels, but if you look at the adult pastels for sale in the classifieds, most are pretty sub-awesome.

Just as there are animals in the top 10% tier of appearance, so there must be animals in the bottom 10% tier as well, and those might look "different" because they aren't average-looking. Honestly though, I have seen plenty of bees that look like that. I think you just don't see their pictures all over the Internet as much as the flashy ones.

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Originally Posted by MS2

She's definitly not the nicest bee, but she IS a 2 gene animal. To me that's a better breeder that a "normal".

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Am I allowed to completely disagree with this statement :D
Quality is what gets you animals that people will want to buy.

I have normal adult females I'd much rather breed than a dirty browned out bee that will throw more dirty pastels and more dirty bee's.
I'd think twice about doing that pairing again.

She is cute, though. She has character. :D