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Pregnant Rat or Fat Rat

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  • 11-11-2011, 08:16 PM
    Steven Raymer
    Re: Pregnant Rat or Fat Rat
    thank you. then its most likely because when i was keeping them as just feeders waiting to be feed i was feeding them dog food until i decided to breed them now they eat kaytee forti-diet pro health.... but she was eating dog food during time of conception (i know this because the male was feed to the snakes the day b4 the switch in food) hope fully next female and her will produce me more next time
  • 11-12-2011, 09:25 PM
    SlitherinSisters
    I was going to ask if she had them yet, but I was too late. Usually if you can tell they are pregnant they will have their babies in 5 days or less. If she had a small litter this time, she may keep having small litters. That's why I only hold back females that were from litters large litters. That way they have a better chance of having larger litters themselves.
  • 11-14-2011, 12:21 PM
    willy72
    Hi.

    My Female rat at the first litter had only 1 baby but at the 2th litter she had 11 babies..

    Give her another chance..
  • 11-14-2011, 02:22 PM
    Steven Raymer
    Re: Pregnant Rat or Fat Rat
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by willy72 View Post
    Hi.

    My Female rat at the first litter had only 1 baby but at the 2th litter she had 11 babies..

    Give her another chance..

    I am going to I only have her and one other female (and she is not ready) and she is going to start my breeding collection.

    Which brings me to another questions; how long (if any) of a rest should i give my female rat before puting her back with the male...
  • 11-15-2011, 05:13 AM
    willy72
    Re: Pregnant Rat or Fat Rat
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Steven Raymer View Post
    I am going to I only have her and one other female (and she is not ready) and she is going to start my breeding collection.

    Which brings me to another questions; how long (if any) of a rest should i give my female rat before puting her back with the male...

    I put back the female with the male after the babies are 30 gg old.
  • 01-22-2012, 07:16 PM
    Steven Raymer
    Re: Pregnant Rat or Fat Rat
    2nd litter = 12 babies (guess the small litter was because of it being her first time and being on dog food)


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  • 01-22-2012, 08:00 PM
    satomi325
    Re: Pregnant Rat or Fat Rat
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Steven Raymer View Post
    2nd litter = 12 babies (guess the small litter was because of it being her first time and being on dog food)


    http://i1108.photobucket.com/albums/...g/DSC_0013.jpg

    http://i1108.photobucket.com/albums/...g/DSC_0014.jpg

    Congrats! That's more like it. haha.
    I just had a litter of 12 as well.
  • 01-22-2012, 10:13 PM
    Steven Raymer
    Re: Pregnant Rat or Fat Rat
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by satomi325 View Post
    Congrats! That's more like it. haha.
    I just had a litter of 12 as well.

    Congrats to you as well!
  • 01-23-2012, 05:28 AM
    ratlover887806
    Re: Pregnant Rat or Fat Rat
    if its her first litter thats about the normal litter size there first litter is always small you lucky you even got three i would have been acceptable for just one but if its not her first litter stress could of caused her to have stillborns and they will eat those to keep the nest clean if you moved her away from the other female and when you took out the male those are all stress issues for rats they stress easily esspecially when they pregnant and they carry the babies for 20-22 days and wean around 4-5 weeks seperate the males from the mom and the sisters before five weeks because the males will start trying to breed the mom or the sisters they dont know about inbreading and that risks more health issues and problems for the next babies such as breathing problems and diformaties
    :)
  • 01-23-2012, 03:49 PM
    satomi325
    Re: Pregnant Rat or Fat Rat
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by ratlover887806 View Post
    if its her first litter thats about the normal litter size there first litter is always small you lucky you even got three i would have been acceptable for just one but if its not her first litter stress could of caused her to have stillborns and they will eat those to keep the nest clean if you moved her away from the other female and when you took out the male those are all stress issues for rats they stress easily esspecially when they pregnant and they carry the babies for 20-22 days and wean around 4-5 weeks seperate the males from the mom and the sisters before five weeks because the males will start trying to breed the mom or the sisters they dont know about inbreading and that risks more health issues and problems for the next babies such as breathing problems and diformaties
    :)

    I disagree. 3 pups for any kind of rat litter is not normal. I have never had a first time mother have less than 10 pups. I think most people who breed their own rats here will agree. Like many of us who have said previously, I believe that the small litter was due to the dog food being fed. The mother had insufficient nutrients to produce a normal sized litter. Her body could only process enough to produce 3 pups. Stress has nothing to do with it. Wild rats will throw huge first time litters and they go through a lot more mental and physical stress than any pet/breeder rat. I have moved pregnant first timers back and forth between different locations, with or without cage mates. I haven't had any negative results. Again, I believe it was the food. To prove it, there are certain rat blocks that help reproduction. Many members here can vouch that their litters double in size due to good food. One guy had a litter of 30+ because he fed his rats a good diet.

    And inbreeding in 1 generation will not effect the health of the pups. Even 2 generations won't show anything. Many professional breeders of any kind of animal will line breed to ensure certain wanted traits. Inbreeding deformities and birth defects are a result of multiple generations of inbreeding.

    I can assure you that every single petco/petsmart rat is inbred. They're usually pretty healthy considering they're a petco/petsmart animal
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