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  • 11-09-2011, 08:52 AM
    JohnNJ
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by JohnNJ View Post
    A week in a spray bottle??? 20-30 min of contact time???

    Please post the source of this information.

    Thanks.

    Anything?
  • 11-09-2011, 08:58 AM
    TheWinWizard
    Amazon, under 9 dollars for a gallon, same 2%. Here's a link. http://www.amazon.com/First-Priority...0843462&sr=8-8
  • 11-09-2011, 09:08 AM
    kitedemon
    The manufacturer of Nolvasan one of the big names brands. There was a couple of other emails asking more specfic questions but this one hits it basically.

    There is a contact time for every disenfectant typically the reptile (and human) safe ones are 20-30 min. There are ones that act very quickly but they are very toxic, and bad for you not to mention everything else that is alive.


    Thank you for your inquiry regarding Nolvasan Solution. When reconstituted with tap water, Nolvasan Solution may be stored in tightly sealed containers, at 25 °C (typical room temperature conditions), for up to one week. When reconstituted with water purified by deionization or an equivalent method, Nolvasan Solution may be stored at 25 °C (typical room temperature conditions), in tightly sealed containers, for up to 6 weeks. Containers should not be dipped into.


    Veterinary Medical Information and Product Support
    Pfizer Animal Health
    800-366-5288

    http://www.beautifuldragons.503xtrem...nfectants.html
    Most of the contact time studies are done against MRSA
    http://www.isssi2008.com/abstract/2.asp
    http://www.cdc.gov/hicpac/Disinfecti...infection.html
  • 11-09-2011, 09:10 AM
    kitedemon
    It is why I switched to F10 it is more stable. Diluted solutions can be stored for 6 months. The contact time is about 10 min.


    http://www.f10biocare.co.uk/VETDISINFECTANT.pdf
  • 11-09-2011, 10:27 AM
    JohnNJ
    Re: Where to buy chlorhexidine?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by kitedemon View Post
    The manufacturer of Nolvasan one of the big names brands. There was a couple of other emails asking more specfic questions but this one hits it basically.

    There is a contact time for every disenfectant typically the reptile (and human) safe ones are 20-30 min. There are ones that act very quickly but they are very toxic, and bad for you not to mention everything else that is alive.


    Thank you for your inquiry regarding Nolvasan Solution. When reconstituted with tap water, Nolvasan Solution may be stored in tightly sealed containers, at 25 °C (typical room temperature conditions), for up to one week. When reconstituted with water purified by deionization or an equivalent method, Nolvasan Solution may be stored at 25 °C (typical room temperature conditions), in tightly sealed containers, for up to 6 weeks. Containers should not be dipped into.


    Veterinary Medical Information and Product Support
    Pfizer Animal Health
    800-366-5288

    http://www.beautifuldragons.503xtrem...nfectants.html
    Most of the contact time studies are done against MRSA
    http://www.isssi2008.com/abstract/2.asp
    http://www.cdc.gov/hicpac/Disinfecti...infection.html

    Thanks for posting.

    The CDC and ISSI links contradict what the Nolvasan letter says. The beautifuldragons link is very pretty but it doesn't list the sources of the information.

    From CDC:

    Contact Times for Surface Disinfectants
    An important issue concerning use of disinfectants for noncritical surfaces in health-care settings is that the contact time specified on the label of the product is often too long to be practically followed. The labels of most products registered by EPA for use against HBV, HIV, or M. tuberculosis specify a contact time of 10 minutes. Such a long contact time is not practical for disinfection of environmental surfaces in a health-care setting because most health-care facilities apply a disinfectant and allow it to dry (~1 minute). Multiple scientific papers have demonstrated significant microbial reduction with contact times of 30 to 60 seconds. In addition, EPA will approve a shortened contact time for any product for which the manufacturers will submit confirmatory efficacy data.

    From ISSI:

    The conclusion of the investigation shpwed that 0.25% concentration of chlorhexidine and 90" [seconds] contact time were the most effective concentration and contact time for inhibition methicillin resistant staphylococcus aureus growth.

    From F10:

    Bactericidal test standard contact times are generally 5 minutes. However it was found that a log3 reduction in gram positive bacteria was achieved in 30 seconds and similarly 60 seconds for gram negative bacteria all at a concentration of 1:500 of the F10SC Veterinary Disinfectant.
  • 11-09-2011, 11:49 AM
    akaangela
    http://ozbo.com/698408-Chlorhexidine-Solution-Gal.html

    I use it and I mix it up a tiny spray bottle at a time. It will last me forever. I even gave some away and still have more than 3/4 of the gallon left.

    You can get it for 10.95 and shipping is less than $5
  • 11-09-2011, 12:57 PM
    ceduke
    I work in a feed store, and we sell the exact same stuff in our horse section, $13 a gallon.
  • 11-10-2011, 02:59 AM
    kitedemon
    Re: Where to buy chlorhexidine?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by JohnNJ View Post
    Thanks for posting.

    The CDC and ISSI links contradict what the Nolvasan letter says. The beautifuldragons link is very pretty but it doesn't list the sources of the information.

    From CDC:

    Contact Times for Surface Disinfectants
    An important issue concerning use of disinfectants for noncritical surfaces in health-care settings is that the contact time specified on the label of the product is often too long to be practically followed. The labels of most products registered by EPA for use against HBV, HIV, or M. tuberculosis specify a contact time of 10 minutes. Such a long contact time is not practical for disinfection of environmental surfaces in a health-care setting because most health-care facilities apply a disinfectant and allow it to dry (~1 minute). Multiple scientific papers have demonstrated significant microbial reduction with contact times of 30 to 60 seconds. In addition, EPA will approve a shortened contact time for any product for which the manufacturers will submit confirmatory efficacy data.

    From ISSI:

    The conclusion of the investigation shpwed that 0.25% concentration of chlorhexidine and 90" [seconds] contact time were the most effective concentration and contact time for inhibition methicillin resistant staphylococcus aureus growth.

    From F10:

    Bactericidal test standard contact times are generally 5 minutes. However it was found that a log3 reduction in gram positive bacteria was achieved in 30 seconds and similarly 60 seconds for gram negative bacteria all at a concentration of 1:500 of the F10SC Veterinary Disinfectant.

    The problem is concentration most reptile users take 2% and dilute it down to less than 1%. Very few use 2% straight as it would be very expensive to do so. The CDC and ISSI are speaking of using it as it comes undiluted, dilution relates to the contact times, I typically check multiple sources and take the longest of them and use that. I don't believe in guessing I am far to fussy for that.
  • 11-10-2011, 09:52 AM
    twistedtails
    Re: Where to buy chlorhexidine?
    I used to use clorexhidine. I use f10 now. I love the fact that when mixed and sprayed you can smell the product and see the bubbles.:)
  • 11-10-2011, 04:21 PM
    JohnNJ
    Where can you get F10 SC?
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