A lesson learned. Know who your daddy is.

The flames and alien heads almost make it look like there could be some Cinny in there as well as Super Pastel, but the color wouldn't be right for a Cinny Super Pastel.

At the least you could have just purchased a big normal girl for less than $100 and bred it to her. Depending on what hatched out...This could have helped clarify what was in there. Just a thought.

This rediculously clean bee was one of the brothers... and the other bee was just as clean.

http://i1136.photobucket.com/albums/...IMG_1637-1.jpg

I have made lots of babies with the male spider, cinny and pastel and nothing special has ever resulted... so I am hoping it is something special in the mom.

Maybe something special with the mom + a particular male.. some kind of special, ultra or whatever hidden gene stuff that's poppin up these days. Keeping my fingers crossed for you that its all in the female, she tosses some beauties!

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Originally Posted by Mike Cavanaugh

This rediculously clean bee was one of the brothers... and the other bee was just as clean.

http://i1136.photobucket.com/albums/...IMG_1637-1.jpg

I have made lots of babies with the male spider, cinny and pastel and nothing special has ever resulted... so I am hoping it is something special in the mom.

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can you post your dam (breeder), I think there was a fire blood in your dam. first look like pastel fire and there i think was a fire spider... just my thought.

Sorry Mike, that had to have been a tough decision to sell them. Definitely post pics of Mom and, if you have them, the possible sires. It does look like there is some Fire gene (or a similar highlighter gene) going on with them. That Bee is KILLER!

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Originally Posted by reptile_republic

can you post your dam (breeder),

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This is the mom... need to get a better picture of her.

http://i1136.photobucket.com/albums/...o/IMG_1984.jpg

Here is the mom as a hatchling when I first purchased her.

http://i1136.photobucket.com/albums/...photo/p1-1.jpg

Mom looks like a regular pastel. The mystery must be with dad.

Possible DAD's (again, all three of these guys have fathered more then 10 clutches each... and nothing special has ever happened....

Pastel

http://i1136.photobucket.com/albums/...DSC00500-1.jpg

Spider

http://i1136.photobucket.com/albums/...to/peter-1.jpg

Cinny

http://i1136.photobucket.com/albums/...DSC00498-2.jpg


By the way, I should note... at least the mystery snake was sold to a friend, and a BP.net member - Theresa Baker (Wolfyhound)

If there's a mystery gene going on, and you include the bees, then the mystery would have to have come from the spider father. If you've ruled out the mother for sure.

For sure, you could rule out the pastel male and the cinny male as culprits because it looks like whatever is going on affected the bees as well as the funky pastel.

If mom was a virgin before this clutch....and the spider has sired multiple clutches without throwing anything unusual before this...then I would be pretty sure the mom is the one with something special going on.

I THINK...so long as you still have the mom...you still have a chance of finding something unique again, even if you sold the spider sire and the unusual pastel. Do you still have those clean bees? Might be cool to breed one of those back to mom in the future, if one is male.

(Sorry if you covered some of those answers about which snakes you still own in your original post...I'm having a hard time keeping up with my own history, much less anyone else's. :P )

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(Sorry if you covered some of those answers about which snakes you still own in your original post...I'm having a hard time keeping up with my own history, much less anyone else's. :P )

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LOL! I understand.

Nope all of the babies are sold. The mom is a permanent member of my collection. Her next boyfriend will be my Super Lemon Blast 100% het Axanthic.