Seems like there are a lot of illegally kept animals here...

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Originally Posted by adamjeffery

in nys you could have received a permit for any animals you had prior to the ban. after the ban it is possible to get one but not easy and they dont hand them out readily. i cant speak for nyc as they have a separate group of laws just for them and i am not up on their laws. they still have to follow nys laws as well though.
in nys its illegal to own:
any venemous
any rear fanged
burms, retics, anacondas, african rock and 2 other large constrictors that i can t remember off hand.
also certain monitors as well i believe but dont quote: croc monitors black throat and white throat. but not 100% on the white throat.
adam jeffery
when i have more time ill do a search and site references for others

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It's called permits and licenses. Besides i'm considering moving to the Knoxville, TN area. Does anyone know if there's a good market for reptile breeders in Knoxville?

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Originally Posted by AK907

Ok, I was just curious. I'm not trying to police them or cause any trouble. Most bans are ridiculous in my opinion. Just something I wondered because I see it a lot and I wasn't really singling out NYC, I just used that as an example because most are aware of that particular ban. I know some people on another forum who live in Georgia and they keep and raise corns, which I know is illegal. I've also met people in Ohio who have a pet eastern milk, which is another no-no. It just seems a lot of these bans are either ineffective, not enforced or have loop holes to get around them.

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You nailed it. Bans are ineffective. It much like drugs, just because you outlaw them, doesn't mean its going to stop people from obtaining them. Bans on animals aren't going to eliminate the animal trade in those states, its just going to make it move underground and involve people willing to take the risks. It's a very hard thing to regulate in reality and far too easy to maintain a collection of illegal animals without being caught.

Some people locations are false..... just FYI before anyone runs around calling DNR or anything.

not sure how up to date this site is but:

State laws on owning exotic animals



NY "wild animal" reptiles that are baned:
(5) All reptiles that are venomous by nature, pursuant to department regulation, and the following species and families: Burmese Python (Python m. bivittatus), Reticulated Python (Python reticulatus), African Rock Python (Python sabae), Green Anaconda (Eunectes maurinus), Yellow Anaconda (Eunectes notaeus), Australian Amethystine Python (Morelia amethistina kinhorni), Indian Python (Python molurus), Asiatic (water) Monitor (V. salvator), Nile Monitor (V. nilocitus), White Throat Monitor (V. albigularus), Black Throat Monitor (V. albigularus ionides) and Crocodile Monitor (V. salvadori) and any hybrid thereof,

(6) Crocodilia.

You can obtain a permit to own them, but you can not breed them.

also:
3. Any person who possesses or harbors a wild animal for use as a pet at the time that this section takes effect may retain possession of such animal for the remainder of its life, provided that such person:

a.Has not been convicted of any offense relating to cruelty to animals or under a judicial order prohibiting possession of animals;

b.Applies to the department within sixty days of the effective date of this section, and obtains from the department, a permit pursuant to subdivision four of this section; and

c.Complies with all rules and regulations established by the department as requisites for ownership of such wild animal.

and another:
• N.Y. AGRIC. & MKTS. §370 - Protection of the public from attack by wild animals and reptiles.

Any person owning, possessing or harboring a wild animal or reptile capable of inflicting bodily harm upon a human being, who shall fail to exercise due care in safeguarding the public from attack by such wild animal or reptile, is guilty of a misdemeanor, punishable by imprisonment for not more than one year, or by a fine of not more than five hundred dollars, or by both. "Wild animal" within the meaning of this section, shall not include a dog or cat or other domestic animal.

Previous attacks upon a human being by such wild animal or reptile, or knowledge of the vicious propensities of such wild animal or reptile, on the part of the possessor or harborer thereof, shall not be required to be proven by the people upon a prosecution hereunder; and neither the fact that such wild animal or reptile has not previously attacked a human being, nor lack of knowledge of the vicious propensities of such wild animal or reptile on the part of the owner, possessor or harborer thereof shall constitute a defense to a prosecution hereunder.

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Originally Posted by pythoncrazy

It's called permits and licenses. Besides i'm considering moving to the Knoxville, TN area. Does anyone know if there's a good market for reptile breeders in Knoxville?

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never said you didnt have any. i was just stating the law as it's written. i can say though breeding any of them in nys is illegal. NO permit allows the breeding of any of the species listed in nys. and no new permits are issued unless its for exhibition or scientific purposes. so the permit only covers animals that were in your possession prior to the ban.
adam jeffery

p.s. i dont care really what people have or dont. i just dont wanna see your name on the news and then NEW laws come out because other people were breaking the current ones. if its illegal....then dont do it. not saying you are doing anything illegal just stating the law

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Originally Posted by TessadasExotics

not sure how up to date this site is but:

State laws on owning exotic animals



NY "wild animal" reptiles that are baned:
(5) All reptiles that are venomous by nature, pursuant to department regulation, and the following species and families: Burmese Python (Python m. bivittatus), Reticulated Python (Python reticulatus), African Rock Python (Python sabae), Green Anaconda (Eunectes maurinus), Yellow Anaconda (Eunectes notaeus), Australian Amethystine Python (Morelia amethistina kinhorni), Indian Python (Python molurus), Asiatic (water) Monitor (V. salvator), Nile Monitor (V. nilocitus), White Throat Monitor (V. albigularus), Black Throat Monitor (V. albigularus ionides) and Crocodile Monitor (V. salvadori) and any hybrid thereof,

(6) Crocodilia.

You can obtain a permit to own them, but you can not breed them.

also:
3. Any person who possesses or harbors a wild animal for use as a pet at the time that this section takes effect may retain possession of such animal for the remainder of its life, provided that such person:

a.Has not been convicted of any offense relating to cruelty to animals or under a judicial order prohibiting possession of animals;

b.Applies to the department within sixty days of the effective date of this section, and obtains from the department, a permit pursuant to subdivision four of this section; and

c.Complies with all rules and regulations established by the department as requisites for ownership of such wild animal.

and another:
• N.Y. AGRIC. & MKTS. §370 - Protection of the public from attack by wild animals and reptiles.

Any person owning, possessing or harboring a wild animal or reptile capable of inflicting bodily harm upon a human being, who shall fail to exercise due care in safeguarding the public from attack by such wild animal or reptile, is guilty of a misdemeanor, punishable by imprisonment for not more than one year, or by a fine of not more than five hundred dollars, or by both. "Wild animal" within the meaning of this section, shall not include a dog or cat or other domestic animal.

Previous attacks upon a human being by such wild animal or reptile, or knowledge of the vicious propensities of such wild animal or reptile, on the part of the possessor or harborer thereof, shall not be required to be proven by the people upon a prosecution hereunder; and neither the fact that such wild animal or reptile has not previously attacked a human being, nor lack of knowledge of the vicious propensities of such wild animal or reptile on the part of the owner, possessor or harborer thereof shall constitute a defense to a prosecution hereunder.

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thanks now i dont have to look for it...lol

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Originally Posted by adamjeffery

if its illegal....then dont do it.

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So, you've never done anything illegal?

Underage drinking, perhaps? Smoking a little weed? *The list can go on, and on*

Let people live their own lives, and worry about your own.

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Originally Posted by CatandDiallo

So, you've never done anything illegal?

Underage drinking, perhaps? Smoking a little weed? *The list can go on, and on*

Let people live their own lives, and worry about your own.

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Bad examples as those only hurt YOU when caught.

But when breaking Banned Laws in cities, hurts Everyone as a whole when Lobbyist get a hold of it

This isnt snakes, but still illegal animals.
Ferrets are illegal in California, yet its the state with the most ferrets and ferret sales in the country. Go figure right?

(CA is also the only state in the continental US that bans them.....something is clearly wrong with their laws when pot is legal and something like pet ferrets aren't IMO....)

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Wait, I thought everything was illegal nowadays. Downloading music from the net is illegal too. Is everyone that downloads music shady? Just because the government says something is wrong, does that mean that it really is?