PETA at it again!!

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Originally Posted by Vypyrz

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. P.E.T.A.

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LOL this is great! :gj:

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Originally Posted by krinklebearcat

I really think that a lot of people on this forum and elsewhere are much too harsh on PETA, especially considering our actions/decisions and theirs are rooted in the same thing: love for animals.

There is a TON of animal cruelty and inadequate care in the world, INCLUDING among reptile keepers... I don't blame them for fighting for animal rights, and I try to do the same (though perhaps not to some of the same extremes).

I don't agree with some of the measures that they suggest, but the world is a much better place for animals as a result of PETA. Really, we aren't so different from them. If we want to ensure that we are able to keep reptiles in our homes for years to come, we need to focus on education and public awareness. PETA bashing is certainly not going to help the cause.

There are a lot of really dedicated, passionate, and wonderful people that work for PETA. I know a few myself, and the ones I know are open-minded to what I have to say. I encourage others on this forum to take that same approach.

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If that was all PETA wanted then most wouldn't have a problem with them. PETA won't be happy until everyone is eating tofu and no one is allowed to keep ANY type of pet. I'm sorry I mean "companion animal".

I used to support PETA too until I realized their not so hidden hidden agenda. I can't support them because of that. I enjoy MY right to keep animals as pets. I believe in conservation and standards of care for pets but I just can't support PETA.

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Originally Posted by Kinra

If that was all PETA wanted then most wouldn't have a problem with them. PETA won't be happy until everyone is eating tofu and no one is allowed to keep ANY type of pet. I'm sorry I mean "companion animal".

I used to support PETA too until I realized their not so hidden hidden agenda. I can't support them because of that. I enjoy MY right to keep animals as pets. I believe in conservation and standards of care for pets but I just can't support PETA.

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I could not have said it better ! RIGHT ON !
P.E.T.A.
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Originally Posted by krinklebearcat

I really think that a lot of people on this forum and elsewhere are much too harsh on PETA, especially considering our actions/decisions and theirs are rooted in the same thing: love for animals.

There is a TON of animal cruelty and inadequate care in the world, INCLUDING among reptile keepers... I don't blame them for fighting for animal rights, and I try to do the same (though perhaps not to some of the same extremes).

I don't agree with some of the measures that they suggest, but the world is a much better place for animals as a result of PETA. Really, we aren't so different from them. If we want to ensure that we are able to keep reptiles in our homes for years to come, we need to focus on education and public awareness. PETA bashing is certainly not going to help the cause.

There are a lot of really dedicated, passionate, and wonderful people that work for PETA. I know a few myself, and the ones I know are open-minded to what I have to say. I encourage others on this forum to take that same approach.

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I'm sure there are plenty of great people that love animals at PETA. The problem is that, as a group, they are too extremist. If they focused more on accomplishing realistic goals such as shutting down puppy mills and improving the conditions of meat and dairy animals, I'd be all for them. The problem is that they go shooting WAY past this goal. Instead of working with the system to make improvements, they sit up on a pedestal and insist that, unless they get their way 100%, everyone else is doing EVERYTHING WRONG. They leave no room for more moderate opinions.

That's why I always liked the HSUS better, they seemed more balanced to me. Though I recently got an email from them asking me to sign a petition to put HUGE restrictions on exotic pets. I'm totally for permitting and restrictions on large mammals and venomous stuff, but because they've gone waaay overboard and openly targeted normal "minor" exotics such as pythons, I'll no longer support them.

It's a shame that animal rights advocates in this country are such extremists. I feel that things would actually get done if we focused on making smaller, more reasonable changes. When it comes down to it, real animal lovers are a minority. If we come across as raging, foaming at the mouth pushy vegans, we'll never get anywhere in public opinion.

Sorry.

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Originally Posted by krinklebearcat

I really think that a lot of people on this forum and elsewhere are much too harsh on PETA, especially considering our actions/decisions and theirs are rooted in the same thing: love for animals.

There is a TON of animal cruelty and inadequate care in the world, INCLUDING among reptile keepers... I don't blame them for fighting for animal rights, and I try to do the same (though perhaps not to some of the same extremes).

I don't agree with some of the measures that they suggest, but the world is a much better place for animals as a result of PETA. Really, we aren't so different from them. If we want to ensure that we are able to keep reptiles in our homes for years to come, we need to focus on education and public awareness. PETA bashing is certainly not going to help the cause.

There are a lot of really dedicated, passionate, and wonderful people that work for PETA. I know a few myself, and the ones I know are open-minded to what I have to say. I encourage others on this forum to take that same approach.

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But I have to disagree on a fairly fundamental point in the comparison.

We try and keep animals alive and happy. PETA's assertion that no animal can be happy in captivity has led to this;

http://www.petakillsanimals.com/

The membership and donors may well have laudable ideals - but the reality is the leaders sanction acts and policies I personally find disgusting.


dr del

This is simply another group of lawmakers who have to continue to fashion laws to prove they are "working" and earning a pay check. Sadly PETA and HSUS are one in the same and fall under same organizational ownerships...thus explains the vast array of ignorant and idiotic ideals and agendas.

Wow... I think they may have smoked some bad granola... :rolleyes: