Bumble bee x bumble bee....what would I get?

I'm not sure if you know this, but crossing spider x spider can cause serious problems. Research this phenomena before deciding on a project containing the gene on both sides.

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but crossing spider x spider can cause serious problems.

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What serious problems?

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Originally Posted by Deborah

What serious problems?

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Ahh...poor choice of words. What I am referring to is would be the so called homogenous spider gene being lethal. Not proven, as I'm sure is where this is headed, but why breed a bumblebee x bumblebee when you could technically cross a bumblebee with a pastel and get the same snakes, and probably a bigger clutch, if one believes that if the spider x spider will give you a loss rather than a regular spider. In my opinion, seems like a waste of a two gene snake in the pairing to me.
Here's a thread I found on it.
http://ball-pythons.net/forums/showt...pider-x-spider

On the otherhand, 2 bumblebees for 500 is a great deal. I just wouldn't pair them together personally.

I would breed a bee to a lemonblast or super pastel, or even a pastel butter/lesser.

Breeding two spider genes together is something I try to avoid just because of the neuro issues. It seems safer to breed one spider gene to a different morph to hopefully minimize the impact of the spider neuro.

Especially 2 related spider genes. What's worse than crossing spider genes is line breeding them. Just saying.

hey could someone do one of those fancy box charts for me? I'm interested in breeding a Pewter with a Lemon Blast... not sure what I will get... that website posted here doesn't show Pewter.. thanks!

adam

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Originally Posted by adam_degel

hey could someone do one of those fancy box charts for me? I'm interested in breeding a Pewter with a Lemon Blast... not sure what I will get... that website posted here doesn't show Pewter.. thanks!

adam

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adam, here you go. this is all you need.
http://www.worldofballpythons.com/wizard/

Edit: But here is your results:

http://www.worldofballpythons.com/wi...2&female=32,84

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Originally Posted by Reakt20

adam, here you go. this is all you need.
http://www.worldofballpythons.com/wizard/

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hey man.. thanks, but i checked that site and I cannot find pewter or lemon blast there!? maybe its still too early for me :sleepy:

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Originally Posted by adam_degel

hey man.. thanks, but i checked that site and I cannot find pewter or lemon blast there!? maybe its still too early for me :sleepy:

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you have to hold the ctrl button when you click on the genes. you have to break it down like pewter is a cinnamon and pastel so hold ctrl and click on pastel and cinnamon. same with lemonblast. a lemonblast is a pin and pastel so do the same and you will get your results. i also posted them in an edit so check it out. looks like an awesome pairing!