Now I'm worried - Help with Ball Pythons

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Originally Posted by Munizfire

I'm no expert, but that kind of looks like a Spider Wobble to me (but on a pin). Now you're making me worry because last night I saw my pin do a little wobble for like 10 seconds and then she stopped, after that she seemed normal, tho.

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Its strange, I've wondered the same thing about my pin! She tends to have a slight wobble as well. Is that normal for pins?

Paint - We have not tested the paint in the apartment for lead but there has been no painting done since we moved in.

Air Fresheners - We only use Febreeze and we don't use it in the snake room. We have used it once in the snake room since moving in and it was only applied to a blanket we have under the ferret cage, never near the racks or in the air. (and it was only a couple days ago)

Parasites - There are no visible signs of external parasites. When I speak to the vet I will see about getting a fecal done, though she has no fecal matter to pass yet. Not sure how long a pinkie takes to digest, but she should have some poo when that is done.

I'm weighing all of my snakes today, and all weights are on the rise, save for the babies that are not eating.

The little pin is still alive. How long does it take a pinkie to digest? The clutch she is from, the entire clutch just seems so tiny, especially in comparison to the third clutch. Even a month after hatching, they are still quite fat and extremely nippy (the male bumblebee that is going to my friend will sit there and literally throw himself at you or he'll open his mouth as a threat that he is going to bite you.)

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Originally Posted by Jay_Bunny

The little pin is still alive. How long does it take a pinkie to digest?

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It's probably going to take a few pinkies before there is enough waste accumulated for them to poop.

I'm wondering when I should attempt to feed her again. She is moving around the tank to thermoregulate. I just checked on her and she is still wobbling. If this is malnutrition then it may take a few meals to get her back to normal.

At this point if I were you (and I am not) what I would do if there is another death is put the body in the fridge (not the freezer) and have a necropsy done.

There is no way to know if those death are related or not or what the issue is.

Snakes sometime die for no apparent reason it can be aneurysm, heart diffect, digestive issues etc could that have happen sure.

Could it be something else, it's possible too again the only way to confirm that there is no diseases going on in your collection would be a necropsy.

You mention living in a new place were any chemical sprayed in the snake room?

There have been no chemicals sprayed in the room save for the Febreeze mentioned earlier that was sprayed on a blanket away from the racks.

I'm hoping this is just malnutrition as the little spider female I have from my first clutch this past season did the same thing. She wasn't eating and got extremely weak. When she ate, she would actually flop over when she was trying to swallow a meal because she didn't have the strength to hold her head up. This pin was doing the same thing when I assist fed her.

Good luck with your babies. Now, you cannot get a necropsy and pathology done on a snake that was put in the freezer. I wouldn't just do a necropsy because a necropsy doesn't tell everything. Get a pathology done also as this will tell more about what was going on with the tissue. The freezer destroys cells and organs by crystallizing them. Like Del said, put it in the refrigerator for the day/night and then take it to a vet the next day.

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I was going to guess that it was from the snake being so weak from not eating. I had a baby do that to me this year. She wouldn't eat and when I assist fed her I had to literally push it down her neck she was so weak. She ended up dying after the 2nd or 3rd feeding. I'm assuming there was either something wrong with her from the start or if she was just to weak to make it.

it looks like its very weak. I would feed it every 3 days. if you're assist feeding, the prey is smaller than what she would be eating by herself anyway. with your hatchlings not making it. I don't think you had any issues besides having what breeders call a weak clutch. you need to get food into that hatchling and keep her temps on the warm side of the range we keep them at (don't cook her). you want to make digestion easy on her. need to keep a watch on her stomach. if she starts to swell up looking like a female with eggs. gently rub her belly and all the way down to her vent. you can feel it she gets backup and this is usually all it takes to help her go. this will help give her a chance of making it. good luck with her