Future Breeding projects = P

Koloo- Well Id rally like to get him sooner, but I dont think Ill be able to. It just so happens to line up that im moving out in January and cant get any snakes until then. Do you think it would be better to skip the first season and just wait until The second season to breed anything at all?(I would still plan on pairing the normal X Bumblee and pastel X bumblebee I would just be waiting an extra year.)

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Originally Posted by John1982

You betcha, breed a killer bee with a black eyed leucy and every hatchling will be a firefly at least, the ones that pickup the spider gene too will be your fire bees! A very groovy pairing to say the least!

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Oh my god! How did I not know about this! DONE. Plans now include KillerBee X Black eyed lucy.

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Originally Posted by Riv

Koloo- Well Id rally like to get him sooner, but I dont think Ill be able to. It just so happens to line up that im moving out in January and cant get any snakes until then. Do you think it would be better to skip the first season and just wait until The second season to breed anything at all?(I would still plan on pairing the normal X Bumblee and pastel X bumblebee I would just be waiting an extra year.)

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It does not hurt to try, but just don't count on him to lock his first year. All snakes are different and you might get lucky;)

Haha. Well cooling down temps a little during the winter might always give him a jump too. I also heard that introducing the female as the season is starting to pick up without actually giving them time to REALLY get to know each other could boost the desire to breed, Though when it comes down to it wheren theyre ready theyre ready, when theyre not theyre not.

My little girl might not even be up to weight by then anyway XD. But it is a goal. Something t strive for and hopefully it works out.

Just keep in mind that the females take at least two years if not more to get to size. So when you produce your killers or BELS that those females won't go the following season. Also keep in mind the whole odds thing. You want to produce a 1.1 or 1.2 ect pair of killers or BELs but that dosnt always happen. We all know how the odds game goes and sometimes you get nothing you were hoping for. But you have the enthusiasm. Good luck.

Thank you! Yeah I am aware that Females take their sweet old time getting to a breedable point, but Im in no rush. They'll get there when they get there. As far as odds go, I probably wont get all of the morphs and genders that I want, but I really really hope I do :D Besides, Im fine with waiting for another clutch if I have to. These are long term projects after all. Even if the selling price of these snakes goes down over the next few years thats fine too. Im breeding the killer bees and the BEL's because -I- LOVE THEM. The fireflies and firebees are just an added bonus. an if I can I will type thing. But beleive me I would never push a snake to breed before its ready to do so.

Hey sorry to ask such a dumb question(Im not really all that good with genetics)

What would the Odds be for the KillerBee X Super Fire BEL be? I searched all over the internet and found not answer, and also tries several morph wizards. All of them had either killerbee's OR Super Fire BEL's. But not both of them = (

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Hey sorry to ask such a dumb question(Im not really all that good with genetics)

What would the Odds be for the KillerBee X Super Fire BEL be? I searched all over the internet and found not answer, and also tries several morph wizards. All of them had either killerbee's OR Super Fire BEL's. But not both of them = (

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Each egg would have a 50/50 chance of picking up the spider gene, so on average half of them would be fire bees from that pairing, the other half would be straight fireflies. Cool thing about that pairing is that even if the odds gods cheat you out of the spider gene you still get a clutch of fireflies since both parents are homozygous.

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Originally Posted by John1982

Each egg would have a 50/50 chance of picking up the spider gene, so on average half of them would be fire bees from that pairing, the other half would be straight fireflies. Cool thing about that pairing is that even if the odds gods cheat you out of the spider gene you still get a clutch of fireflies since both parents are homozygous.

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Wow. I had actually thought it would be 50/50
but convinced myself that couldnt be right XDD Im really excited to do this. Both fireflies and firebees are beautiful morphs!

i bred my pied to a 100% het pied,,,, and got nothing. i had a 98.6% chance of getting atleast 1 pied,, and i lost with a 1.4(or so) %%%..
and chances are that by the time you get there,, prices would have fallen. BUT as long as you stick to your guns, and follow your plans, YOU will be satisfied.. and isnt that what its all about anyway???
heres a little thing that i have learned though,,, always have a plan B. if the plan A falls through,, youll have plan B to keep you going!
good luck!
spooky