The superball (blood python X ball python)

I am all for hybrids. Some hybrids even exist naturally. Some domesticated animals and plats are actually hybridized. Corn anyone? Certain apples. Mules...

I think as long as it is done responsibly it is fine. Unlike, say, killer bees, which was done on purpose in an irresposible manner.

does anyone not see a danger here? I can see mud bloods being passed off as the real thing, next thing the true blood line is lost, Are these hybrid even fertile, as sometime crossing breeds can result in sterile animals being produced not to mention mutation of illness...

I see it as cheating the true blood line, if it happens in the wild, then it's an act of nature... in captivity... NOOOO

Isn't the Super Balls that Rousiss produced Borneo Short-Tail & Ball Python?

Are hybrids sterile? I know mules can't reproduce and neither could the Liger (Lion x Tiger Hybrid). Is this true with reptile hybrids as well?

Either way I'm not for it, but I do think they make interesting animals.

nice...take a nice mellow normally shy bp & give it a nasty attitude. :gj:
no thanks.
i see no need for hybrids too cuz each species has qualities that are unique to it so why smear it up with something else that could potentially taint it in a negative way?

i love the colors on bloods but the meanness i keep reading on them makes me hesitate about thinking about ever owning one.

The only hybrid I think looks cool is the wall (woma x ball). Those are two completely different looking snakes so there isn't any confusion. I do say keep stp on there own. They are cool enough already!

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I never understood the argument against hybrids. I see two points always brought up, people passing off something for what its not, so you must be against breeding recessive morphs and/or subtle morphs? its not natural, so your against designer morphs and people keeping animals as pets, domesticated dogs and cats ect....

Its the pet trade, why not explore all the possibilities.

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Originally Posted by Biffard

Are hybrids sterile? I know mules can't reproduce and neither could the Liger (Lion x Tiger Hybrid). Is this true with reptile hybrids as well?

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carpondros are fertile, though I think its only been done with a carpondro x gtp or carpondro x carpet, havn't herd of a carpondro x carpondro. I'm sure it depends on the animals if they can or not.

my being against hybrids is specific to when there's 2 animals with opposing behavioral traits & when creating the hybrid will cause potential health risks for the offspring.
i do acknowledge that some hybrids are bred for their resulting benefits such as mules.
you get the size of the horse + the working ability of the donkey = larger, stronger animal but their major downside...they're sterile. gotta take the bad with the good, i guess.
i'm all for hybrids only when creating them is needed/beneficial for all parties involved.
for example, breeding a ball to a ball to create a designer ball - good.
however, throwing 2 creatures together to create something to brag about - bad.
my points may seemingly be opposing sides of the same coin but i just see the fine line between what's ok & whats not & that line is thicker/thinner depending on who's dealing with it.
each of us has our own opinions on this touchy subject & as long as we can all respect our fellow person's opinions, having these differences doesnt have to be a problem.
right? [looks around at bp.net community] ;)

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Originally Posted by mommanessy247

my being against hybrids is specific to when there's 2 animals with opposing behavioral traits & when creating the hybrid will cause potential health risks for the offspring.

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You can't know until it's done what the results will be. Say with a blood ball, you could get the size of the blood with the pattern of a ball. Or the other way around. No one knew what it would be until it was done.

And do you know how many dogs and cats are predisposed to injury and disease due the their breeding? Yet they are still bred and loved by many.

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Originally Posted by mommanessy247

i'm all for hybrids only when creating them is needed/beneficial for all parties involved.
for example, breeding a ball to a ball to create a designer ball - good.
however, throwing 2 creatures together to create something to brag about - bad.
my points may seemingly be opposing sides of the same coin but i just see the fine line between what's ok & whats not & that line is thicker/thinner depending on who's dealing with it.
each of us has our own opinions on this touchy subject & as long as we can all respect our fellow person's opinions, having these differences doesnt have to be a problem. right? [looks around at bp.net community] ;)

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Honestly it does look like you've contradicted yourself here. Being the first to produce a morph is as much for bragging rights as it is for the money.

To me, making designer morphs is the same as making a designer species (hybrid). As long as the offspring is healthy, not harmful, and someone actually wants them then I don't see a problem.

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Originally Posted by Peoples

Are these hybrid even fertile, as sometime crossing breeds can result in sterile animals being produced not to mention mutation of illness...

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I know Carballs aren't fertile (carpetsxballs), it seems to be the trend that hybrid reptiles are usually sterile. Then again I might not have done enough research.

My stance is, it's an interesting idea, but I like to have my snakes 100% one breed. It's just more natural, and I feel it's even more cool to own something that happens normally in nature.