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  • 08-26-2011, 07:33 AM
    DakotaB
    Re: Banana male puzzle solved.
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Big Gunns View Post
    BG saw bananas everywhere at the southern show....yet not one Candy or Toffee baby. :confused:

    Are you talking about the Daytona show? Because there were lots of bannanas there. But i did see one Candy witch looked amazing.
  • 08-26-2011, 08:33 AM
    PassionsPythons
    Re: Banana male puzzle solved.
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Big Gunns View Post
    BG saw bananas everywhere at the southern show....yet not one Candy or Toffee baby. :confused:

    I don't think the community knows how to price them now. At least for toffee's, because now that we know they are just a supped up albino... what are they worth? Males may hold value, but the females should drop like a ROCK!
  • 08-26-2011, 09:42 AM
    The Hedgehog
  • 08-26-2011, 10:20 AM
    Aes_Sidhe
    Re: Banana male puzzle solved.
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by mainbutter View Post
    And if anyone wants to talk bananas instead of banana peppers, this is an interesting read.

    http://ball-pythons.net/forums/showt...nked-Mutations

    I read This one before.. and believe me Punnet Square give me headache sometimes (like double recessive plus fed codoms and I'm lost) Sex Linked mutations...This is Tooo much... I stay with My tiny Hobbyist/Small Breeder status and let Big Boys with Big Gunns ;) do they Job :P
  • 08-26-2011, 11:04 AM
    Russ Lawson
    Re: Banana male puzzle solved.
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by mainbutter View Post
    And if anyone wants to talk bananas instead of banana peppers, this is an interesting read.

    http://ball-pythons.net/forums/showt...nked-Mutations

    At the time I was writing that guide, most of the information that was available suggested to me that we were dealing with a standard case of Z-linkage. However, since then most of the information I have been able to find on banana/coral glow males being produced has suggested that this is not actually the case. I will probably revise the guide on my website to describe a hypothetical mutation (similar to the one I fabricated to explain W-linkage) when I get a full understanding of how the banana/cg mutation is inherited.

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Big Gunns View Post
    Where is this thread? Big Gunns would like to see it so he can see who the liars are.

    BG, the thread Randy was referring to is on Bush-League here: http://www.reptileradio.net/reptiler...ad.php?t=21824
  • 08-26-2011, 11:13 AM
    mainbutter
    Thanks for chipping in Russ. You could rewrite it to talk about color blindness in humans, but then that'd throw the ZW/ZZ out of whack.
  • 08-26-2011, 11:14 AM
    Jessica Loesch
    Re: Banana male puzzle solved.
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Ntume View Post
    BG is referring to his friend, ozzy who produced 3.1 (3! males) in once clutch I presume.

    It's posted over at reptile radio.

    greets,

    Yaron

    This is what I was thinking, but oh well.

    I was just going to say that if it is as simple as sex linked, then that is easy. Obviously you can't produce a male from a male banana if he only passes on his Y chromosome if the banana gene is X linked. However the female passes along the X chromosome and if the banana gene is linked to the X chromosome, then you need a female banana to make male bananas. Which has been the common train of thought anyway.

    there is obviously more to it than that though.
  • 08-26-2011, 11:32 AM
    mainbutter
    Snakes don't ascribe to the XX/XY system. They use the ZZ/ZW system, where males are ZZ and females are ZW, kind of opposite of humans.
  • 08-26-2011, 11:34 AM
    Dave Green
    BG, your a silly dude. I know exactly how to get a male.....

    ....make a phone call and write a big check(don't forget all those zeros). Then hope the wife doesn't complain about the hardwood floors she's been wanting for years.
  • 08-26-2011, 11:39 AM
    Jessica Loesch
    Re: Banana male puzzle solved.
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by mainbutter View Post
    Snakes don't ascribe to the XX/XY system. They use the ZZ/ZW system, where males are ZZ and females are ZW, kind of opposite of humans.

    I vaguely remember learning that in high school ....
    So then if you have it W linked, that would make sense.

    But my question is, how then are males able to produce more female bananas?
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