Why regurgitation?

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Originally Posted by ballman123

One of my female snakes has regurgitated twice. I feed medium rats and they all eat very well. But, a few weeks ago my female 1500 gram threw up a rat. Then the next week she ate fine. Then, this week threw up again. Whats the problem? Is it possible the rat was not completely thawed? What causes this she is healthy?

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ok it was 2 weeks if I'm reading this correctly. how long from eating until regurging? If the rodent wasn't all the way down when it came back up is a lot different from being in the stomach and throwing it up.

there's many reasons why this can happen, some already stated, snake could be sick and not showing signs yet, the rodent is too big, stress and I sure there's more. with the information given, you're only going to get guesses, find a good exotic vet.

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Originally Posted by ballman123

Parasites would not be possible. And, I did not feed twice and she did not regurg twice in a weeks time. It was about a month ago. What is the difference between regurgitation and throwing up? She goes to the bathroom regularly and is a healthy heavy bodied snake. I think it is the temperature of the prey item.

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Why would parasites not be possible?

Throwing up is spitting the food back out almost immediately after eating. Regurgitation is the food being in the belly for a period of time, getting partially digested and coming back up.

It comes back up not 24 hours after going down. Would that be throwing up?

FYI, just a tip on thawing in hot water. Put the rat in a ziploc bag and squeeze as much of the air out as you can before putting the entire bag in the water. It keeps the rat dry which can make a difference.

A rat soaking directly in hot water tends to lead to an exploding rat among other things.

If 24 hours has passed it is a regurgitation.

Spitting it back out would have been immediately after feeding.

Now there are possible caused

1# Improper thawing of the feeder
2# Stress
3# Temps too low not allowing the animal to digest properly
4# Internal parasites

YOUR job is to figure out what could possibly be the cause, and to make sure not to feed this BP again for at least 2 weeks.

If it happens a 3rd time and 1 through 3 have been ruled out take your BP to a vet and have a fecal done.

Thanks guys I have a feeling it is my thawing technique and maybe she is just a little more picky of how hers is thawed. I really doubt the internal parasite as it is not wild caught or anything. My temps are good to. Hopefully a new thawing technique will work. But, when I used to let them thaw at night they seemed to go bad from sitting out to long thats why I went to the bucket. Doesnt it take alot longer to thaw in bags to? Thanks for helping guys!

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Originally Posted by ballman123

Thanks guys I have a feeling it is my thawing technique and maybe she is just a little more picky of how hers is thawed. I really doubt the internal parasite as it is not wild caught or anything. My temps are good to. Hopefully a new thawing technique will work. But, when I used to let them thaw at night they seemed to go bad from sitting out to long thats why I went to the bucket. Doesnt it take alot longer to thaw in bags to? Thanks for helping guys!

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Either the item is thawed or not. The snake will not intentionally regurge because it is criticizing or having an issue with your thawing technique.

Even if the item is slightly cool, it should not present a problem. The fact that your other snakes are not having issues with items thawed in the exact same manner should indicate that something else may be going on here. What is your hot spot temperature? Your ambient? Your cool side?

Internal parasites can be transmitted to captive bred snakes several ways. One of those ways is through prey items that harbor these parasites. Depending on the length of time and temperature that the rodent was frozen, it could still be a potential parasite vector.

Sounds like you got issues going on in your collection:
http://ball-pythons.net/forums/showt...08#post1627608

I'd step back from the keyboard and get your animals evaluated by a vet.

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Originally Posted by ballman123

Thanks guys I have a feeling it is my thawing technique and maybe she is just a little more picky of how hers is thawed. I really doubt the internal parasite as it is not wild caught or anything. My temps are good to. Hopefully a new thawing technique will work. But, when I used to let them thaw at night they seemed to go bad from sitting out to long thats why I went to the bucket. Doesnt it take alot longer to thaw in bags to? Thanks for helping guys!

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That has nothing to do with whether or not she has internal parasites.

And Skip raises a good point - if it were your thawing technique, all your animals would be regurgitating. Right now, you have at least 2 animals that you've reported have regurgitated for you. It DOES sound like your collection needs some medical attention. :(

I take very good care of my animals and snakes. My hot spot is 95 cool about 80 and ambient about 78. My other issue was mouth rought that got out of hand. This snake seems perfectly healthy and has been eating great her whole time I have had her. She is always hungry and never misses a meal. She is akready coming out of the cage after she regurgitated looking for food. If she does it again I will take her to a vet.

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Originally Posted by ballman123

I take very good care of my animals and snakes. My hot spot is 95 cool about 80 and ambient about 78. My other issue was mouth rought that got out of hand. This snake seems perfectly healthy and has been eating great her whole time I have had her. She is always hungry and never misses a meal. She is akready coming out of the cage after she regurgitated looking for food. If she does it again I will take her to a vet.

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How about taking your fingers out of your ears and try listening to the advice you've been given.

You have a snake with mouth rot that also had a bloody cloaca. that snake regurged.

You have a second snake that has now regurged twice.

Nobody passed judgement on you so stop wasting time defending yourself from non-existant accusations.

You obviously have an issue in your collection - you may not want to admit it, but you do . You have one snake that is sick and another that may very well be.

Take both animals to a vet and get them professionally diagnosed and treated.

Then you can come back here and explain to me how your ambient is lower than your cool end.