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Question about RI's

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  • 08-02-2011, 04:48 PM
    kitedemon
    RI has been known to caused by high humidity and POOR air FLOW. How much ventilation do you have? Bacteria and fungi thrive in warm moist stale air. Check your air flow.
  • 08-02-2011, 04:51 PM
    Rat160
    Re: Question about RI's
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by kitedemon View Post
    RI has been known to caused by high humidity and POOR air FLOW. How much ventilation do you have? Bacteria and fungi thrive in warm moist stale air. Check your air flow.

    Actually dont have much air flow. They are in a bedroom by themselves. Do you think I could just put a box fan in there? And if so should I point it directly on the rack or what?
  • 08-02-2011, 05:00 PM
    Homegrownscales
    She means air flow in the rack. Do you have any ventilation holes? what kind of rack is it?


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  • 08-02-2011, 07:48 PM
    Rat160
    Re: Question about RI's
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Homegrownscales View Post
    She means air flow in the rack. Do you have any ventilation holes? what kind of rack is it?


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    No holes since there is about a 1/4 gap between the top of the tub and the wood so there should be plenty of airflow. Here is a picture of the rack.

    http://i1124.photobucket.com/albums/...at160/RACK.jpg
  • 08-02-2011, 09:21 PM
    kitedemon
    Personally I'd add some more holes. I have a set on each end of every tub the hot side has some about half way up the end and the cool has some at the top to promote good air flow inside the tub.
  • 08-02-2011, 11:12 PM
    Simple Man
    I'm going to go against the grain on this one. Low humidity is just as bad as too high of humidity. I bet your humidity is in the 30's or less. That's typically what my room is. I keep my snakes at 55-60% and mist to 70+ during shed and have never had a single issue. I'd keep humidity at least at 50% and I bet it will prevent the rest of your snakes from following the same route. Slightly higher temps and a humidity correction might fix your problem. Good luck!

    Regards,

    B
  • 08-03-2011, 08:20 AM
    kitedemon
    I have 60% - 70% humidity but I do not get it by using the exhaled breath of a snake. It isn't high humidity that is the problem but low air flow AND high humidity. It is documented by both DR. J. Rossi and DR. R Klingenburg.
  • 08-03-2011, 08:22 AM
    Rat160
    Re: Question about RI's
    Well I know its not high humidity. I have to mist to get any humidity at all. So If anythign Id say it was low. Not saying I know what causes RI's cause I don't just stating what I know about my own set up.
  • 08-03-2011, 05:10 PM
    kitedemon
    The problem with RI is it covers a huge range of problems there are tons of bacteria that can cause respiratory issues and a handful of flora that can do the same too. There is no one cause it is almost always combinations of things. Low Air flow has been known to exacerbate the issues. The typical condition is low air flow being used to get the humidity up and especially when there is a huge difference from the room to enclosures. Personally I keep my snake room at 60% add lots of holes and everything is perfect. I know many whom just place humid hides and lots of airflow and deal that way. The idea of chocking off the airflow and using the moisture in the exhalation of the snake to raise humidity seems completely crazy to me.
  • 08-03-2011, 05:48 PM
    spitzu
    Re: Question about RI's
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by kitedemon View Post
    I have 60% - 70% humidity but I do not get it by using the exhaled breath of a snake. It isn't high humidity that is the problem but low air flow AND high humidity. It is documented by both DR. J. Rossi and DR. R Klingenburg.

    I think I've seen you say that before and I don't think it really applies to this situation. Like he said, he has a 1/4" gap at the top of his tubs which allows for plenty of air flow. Combine that with the fact that he is using paper substrate in most of those tubs, which means that he has to open them at least once per day (to check for mess) and that completely changes out the air in the process.

    I run my racks/tubs the same way. Not a single tub has holes in it, I haven't had any RIs or other illnesses, and all of them (usually) shed in one piece. The difference may be that I have 50+ water bowls evaporating in a tiny 8X10 room with the door closed 24/7. I don't measure humidity anymore, but I'm betting that the room itself is in the 40-50% range.

    OP, maybe try keeping the water bowls over the heat tape?
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