Fred kick

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Originally Posted by rgang

I like the look of this pinstripe 66% het genetic stripe listed on kingsnake for 250.00 shipped but now that I am doing some research on these guys I don't know what to do. Does anyone have any thoughts? I am new to ball pythons and I don't want to start off with a sick snake or get ripped of.

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I don't know beans about the man from personal experience. But here is a general rule that I find helpful. I should buy from someone with an excellent reputation, even if it I pay a little more for the animal. Spending an extra $50 or $100 bucks up front is nothing compared to the potential cost of a single vet bill.

And if I'm looking to buy hets I'm doubly nuts if I don't buy from a guy or gal with a spotless reputation because with most hets all I really have to assure that I will get what I'm paying for is the seller's integrety.

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Originally Posted by Redneck_Crow

I don't know beans about the man from personal experience. But here is a general rule that I find helpful. I should buy from someone with an excellent reputation, even if it I pay a little more for the animal. Spending an extra $50 or $100 bucks up front is nothing compared to the potential cost of a single vet bill.

And if I'm looking to buy hets I'm doubly nuts if I don't buy from a guy or gal with a spotless reputation because with most hets all I really have to assure that I will get what I'm paying for is the seller's integrety.

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I firmly agree. with as much doubt and haze around Fred kicks reputation I'm not sure why people still take the chance. save your money and get a quality animal, not a quality vet bill.


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*sniff sniff* anybody else smell that??

:twocents:

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Originally Posted by Xan Powers

I firmly agree. with as much doubt and haze around Fred kicks reputation I'm not sure why people still take the chance. save your money and get a quality animal, not a quality vet bill.


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im not tryin to stick up for Fred Kick and say he is a good guy im just inputing this lil bit of information i purchased a 2010 female pinstripe from him and i have had no problems with this animal so far (knocks on wood). normally i dont do this but it was a spur of the moment purchase that i dont regret and im very happy with my purchase normally i would learn more about the person im buying from (example: i watched almost all of Garrick DeMeyers youtube vids before buying from him) :twocents:

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Originally Posted by BigJ

*sniff sniff* anybody else smell that??

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what smells inside your home I could not possibly imagine. what might you be smelling sir


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I REALLY wish I would have checked here first.
I bought a "100% het Genetic Stripe male and female" for $100. They arrived today covered in mites, covered in stuck shed, and the male has retained eye caps on both eyes!!! :mad: :mad: :mad:
I guess I'll nurse them back to health, and look at it as a lesson learned. (Now I just hope that they ARE 100% hets)

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Originally Posted by mikeandsheleen

I REALLY wish I would have checked here first.
I bought a "100% het Genetic Stripe male and female" for $100. They arrived today covered in mites, covered in stuck shed, and the male has retained eye caps on both eyes!!! :mad: :mad: :mad:
I guess I'll nurse them back to health, and look at it as a lesson learned. (Now I just hope that they ARE 100% hets)

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Post this on his Bad GUy Thread on Fauna BOI.

Oooooo...that sucks!! I almost bought a snake from Fred Kick a couple months ago. A really nice looking Pastave. I even sent the money through Paypal. He was very fast to respond to my emails up to that point. After I sent the money, he stopped answering my questions. I decided to google his name for the heck of it and saw his bad guy rants from others. That made me very nervous. LUCKILY I sent the money to the wrong email address!!!!! :oops:
I waited a good week for the refund to my debit card from paypal, but that was well worth it in my opinion. I learned a valuable lesson at that point! ALWAYS do research on your breeders you buy from. I see my snakes as investments as much as they are pets. I am not speaking ill of Fred Kick. I'm sure there's more to some of those stories as well. I've also read that a lot of his high end stuff is really nice. Its the stuff he flips that he won't stand behind it seems...and in my opinion, that is not worth the risk when we are talking hundreds to thousands of dollars.

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Originally Posted by mikeandsheleen

I REALLY wish I would have checked here first.
I bought a "100% het Genetic Stripe male and female" for $100. They arrived today covered in mites, covered in stuck shed, and the male has retained eye caps on both eyes!!! :mad: :mad: :mad:
I guess I'll nurse them back to health, and look at it as a lesson learned. (Now I just hope that they ARE 100% hets)

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A het genetic stripe pair for $100? That's one of those "If it sounds too good to be true" deals. :( Maybe he let them go cheap because they're in such bad shape and he didn't want to take the time to work with them....but no matter what, at this point, I'd consider their genetics very suspect. Sorry. :(

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Originally Posted by RichsBallPythons

Post this on his Bad GUy Thread on Fauna BOI.

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I have emailed him and I'm giving him 24 hours to respond before I add to the Bad Guy Thread on the BOI, but if I need to, I will.