Safe this bee in China. Please !

Like it was said already, soaking isn't going to treat the mite problem. Your friend needs to get something like PAM, provent a mite http://www.pro-products.com/index.ph...d=53&Itemid=59 I wouldn't use anything else.

As for his head issues, my guess is that he has a bad spider wobble. It's something everyone should be aware of when they are buying anything with the spider gene. There are very few cases in which it is life threatening. If he eats, he'll be fine.

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Originally Posted by snakesRkewl

I have a male spider that sleeps with his head upside down at times lol, call the police I'm abusing it :rofl:

Wobbling and or corkscrewing spiders tend to go upside down a lot, but if it can't right itself then it is probably a really bad wobbler and may have issues eating and or drinking.

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i was not trying to be a jerk to anyone i just never knew a wobble could look like that... i have heard of slight wobbles but if thats a normal wobble for that specific spider than poor thing but if it caused by the breeder then thats sooo not cool... i mean he even looks a little skinny from the picture and if he really is as thin in real life than that means he hasnt been eating right. it makes me sad, mad and confused because sure i dont know the situation but that snake does not look happy or as healthy as he should be

OWNER: just take care of him now cuz at least hes under your care and im sure you will try everything to help that snake. best wishes to you

i would still tell him to take the lil buddy to a herpvet to be on the safe side,but thats just me.

A herp vet or provent a mite might be difficult finds in china :confused:

You can get Provent a Mite shipped to China as there's sellers on Ebay that ship them worldwide.

Also the wobble can range to barely there to train wreck like you see in photo. Its normal and nothing can be done. Spider gene will do some funky stuff to their motor skills. And its nothing to worry about.

The mites on other hand need to be dealt with ASAP before the snake becomes anemic from blood loss

Sad to say, your friend should have done a LOT more research before jumping in to buying a snake he knew nothing about.

Anyone who knows anything at all about spiders knows they have this issue, and that any morph carrying the spider gene can have it too. There is a ton of information on the internet on this wobble, and hundreds of videos on YouTube.

Now, this snake is underweight at the moment, but it's obviously eaten before or it wouldn't be as big as it is. The first and most important thing is to get rid of those mites. You freind needs to get on Ebay and buy a can of Proven-a-Mite and have it shipped to him. In the meantime, he can soak the snake every day in lukewarm water with a single drop of shampoo in it to break the surface tension on the water and help drown the mites. This IS NOT a permanent solution, just a temporary one until the Provent-a-Mite shows up.

The snake needs a warm, quiet place to rest and as little handling as possible. Your friend should not offer food for at least 5 days of minimal disturbance of this snake. This animal will always wobble to some degree, however once the stress of mites and moving subside, it should improve. There is no reason for this animal to die unless your friend let's it die.

Send your friend here to read and learn all he can, treat the mites and allow the animal to rest and de-stress and it should be fine.

Gale

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Originally Posted by snakesRkewl

A herp vet or provent a mite might be difficult finds in china :confused:

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oh he lives in China,i thought he got it shipped from China.thats a good point that may be hard to do.eeekkk

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Originally Posted by LonelyGhost

i was not trying to be a jerk to anyone i just never knew a wobble could look like that... i have heard of slight wobbles but if thats a normal wobble for that specific spider than poor thing but if it caused by the breeder then thats sooo not cool... i mean he even looks a little skinny from the picture and if he really is as thin in real life than that means he hasnt been eating right. it makes me sad, mad and confused because sure i dont know the situation but that snake does not look happy or as healthy as he should be

OWNER: just take care of him now cuz at least hes under your care and im sure you will try everything to help that snake. best wishes to you

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Well it's both; it is genetic, and it is caused by the breeder (for breeding spiders).

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Originally Posted by LizardPants

Well it's both; it is genetic, and it is caused by the breeder (for breeding spiders).

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Not caused by the breeder, caused by Mother nature with inheritable genetics.

And by breeding snakes with the defect, the breeder has chosen to perpetuate the defect.