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  • 05-12-2011, 07:21 PM
    boadaddy
    Re: lavender albino first rabbit
    Wow if you can't put the prey down humanely, then buy frozen - not rocket science, right? I breed rats for my snakes and gas them because I refuse to take the risk of feeding live, but at least I have a conscience! Noobs never cease to amaze me? Gassing can be as simple as dry ice, baking soda and vinegar or a co2 tank with a remote, as for me I use the dry ice method costs only $1.12 a pound and one pound can put down lots of rats or a decent amount of rabbits. Snakes constricting their prey is one thing bashing them on the head is barbaric, even cervical dislocation if done correctly is more humane. BTW there is no such thing as het salmon with columbians.

    Grrr :groinkick
  • 05-12-2011, 08:36 PM
    johnlebel97
    hey you do it your way i will do it mine... noit askin for anyones acceptance on this
  • 05-12-2011, 08:43 PM
    Cendalla
    First time is rarely perfect. Its nicer than some of the live feedings I've seen. I doubt he woke up one morning and thought 'think I mangle a rabbit today.' How about offering advice and suggestions instead of coming off completely hostile.
  • 05-12-2011, 08:44 PM
    grits
    and what if the snake wont take prekilled or f/t? Is he supposed to just let it starve? I throw live in with my picky eaters and have been doing so longer than most of the people here were alive. I have yet to have a snake get injured.
  • 05-12-2011, 11:17 PM
    johnlebel97
    i threw a large live rat to the male and he got bit pretty bad so im slowly getting them in to live
  • 05-13-2011, 12:12 AM
    TheSnakeEye
    Re: lavender albino first rabbit
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Cendalla View Post
    First time is rarely perfect. Its nicer than some of the live feedings I've seen. I doubt he woke up one morning and thought 'think I mangle a rabbit today.' How about offering advice and suggestions instead of coming off completely hostile.

    Advice was offered. He responded with a "if you dont like it then too bad" attitude.
  • 05-13-2011, 12:13 AM
    TheSnakeEye
    Re: lavender albino first rabbit
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by grits View Post
    and what if the snake wont take prekilled or f/t? Is he supposed to just let it starve? I throw live in with my picky eaters and have been doing so longer than most of the people here were alive. I have yet to have a snake get injured.

    This makes no sense. He prekilled the rabbit and the retic ate.. That is not the issue, the issue is that he bashed the rabbits head like a savage instead of killing it more humanely.
  • 05-13-2011, 12:20 AM
    JLC
    Re: lavender albino first rabbit
    Just my two cents on the issue of euthanasia methods...

    Just because a particular method may offend someone's sensitive nature doesn't make it "inhumane." Assumptions have been made that the "thumping" was done wrong, but the OP never said anything like, "I had to whack it over and over again" or anything disturbing like that.

    A quick, sharp blow to the head will cause instant death. What is inhumane about that? Does the dead rabbit care that it bleeds? I've fed pre-killed rabbits to a burm...purchased from a professional rabbit breeder. All of them had been "thumped" on the head and were bloody to some degree or another.

    Are there other methods? Certainly. I'm not advocating one or another. I'm simply saying that just because it can be considered "violent" doesn't mean it's inhumane.
  • 05-13-2011, 12:27 AM
    mainbutter
    I don't think the rabbit cared how "savagely" its head was bashe... it was dead. The faster, the better, and as long as it was a quick death it was a humane death. Clean, slow deaths are rarely humane.

    THE ONLY PURPOSE OF A 'CLEAN' DEATH IS FOR THE BENEFIT OF THE LIVING, AND NOT THE ANIMAL WHOSE LIFE YOU ARE TAKING. Disregarding a potentially better method of euthanasia because there is blood and trauma involved because you perceive it as 'savage' is GREEDY and SELFISH and UNCARING towards the creatures who deserve a quick, painless end.

    Blunt force head trauma, causing instant death, IS humane. Blood does not imply an inhumane death.

    The problem is if it's not quick. Bigger animals are harder to do right, and sometimes the amount of force required is just ridiculous. You can't slaughter a cow with a baseball bat, at least not easily, not with a single swing.

    For me, rabbits are on that borderline where they're getting just difficult enough to conk that I don't like to do it. I'm not confident in my ability to have an instant-thwack death that leaves most of the body intact enough to feed, but I'm sure it can be done reliably and consistently.

    Here is a video that displays how meat-rabbit slaughterhouses quick-kill their livestock.
    DO NO WATCH IF YOU DON'T WANT TO SEE RABBITS HUMANELY KILLED FOR HUMAN CONSUMPTION

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mrdr0IvFTy8
  • 05-13-2011, 12:29 AM
    mainbutter
    Back on topic, great thing seeing a growing snake take a new feeder size :D Congrats!
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