Harlequin Wide-Stripe

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Originally Posted by chago11

I think it's a random occurence here is a thread that I started with pics of my first clutch I think my female is a widestripe http://ball-pythons.net/forums/showt...85#post1546685

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Thats a popular opinion, your pair looks awesome - can't believe you got all normal looking snakes with barely any striping (in comparison) out of them. Maybe you've got something recessive there or horrible odds or maybe those are just crazy looking normals... or maybe they all are!

In any case thanks for posting and good luck with your projects!

I don't know how relevent this is but I've read several instances that Harlequin is just a type of pattern. I haven't read that it has shown to be genetic. Take that with a grain of salt. I read a lot and sponge info and that's something I've read on multiple occasions. I don't have personal experience on the matter. I'll be following this with some curiousity myself.

Regards,

B

Here is a site that I thought was interesting.

http://www.vmsherp.com/ViewWideStripeBalls.htm

Thanks, I came across that one as well. You can find pictures of their clutches on there if you dig enough. The site says they are retired but still have lots of their animals, I wonder if they're still working with these at all. They would have breeding size females by now if they held any back.

i think who ever is hiding the side stripe from us needs to share because those patterns would amaze me in pastel, clown, lesser/butter, yellowbelly and albino forms omg i would spend every last penny on an albino side stripe

http://i491.photobucket.com/albums/r...l/IMGP3608.jpg

Gave me a few eggs in 2010. Unfortunatly, she never bounced back from laying and ended up passing away:(

I was very bummed, I have only lost two Ball Pythons over about 14 years.

Out of the few eggs she laid, only two hatched, both Pastels that looked fairly normal. The male is a Pastel, the female that hatched out is a Pastel YB. I held both back and will probaby end up breeding them together to see if anything cool pops out.

Dave

I forgot to add these pics of her babies. She was bred to my Pastel YB male.

Dave
http://i491.photobucket.com/albums/r...l/IMGP3765.jpg

http://i491.photobucket.com/albums/r...l/IMGP3760.jpg

Thats too bad that she passed on, she was a looker! Looks just like my girl.

Good luck with the sibs.

Here's the deal with harlequin wide stripes. These are the things I personally know to be fact.

1. yes it's genetic and it has been proven. it's an incomplete dominant morph. when bred to a normal you get 25%-50% wide stripes

2. it does not work with pastels but if you breed it to super pastels it does work. Basically if you breed a harlequin to a pastel you get 50% pastels and 50% normals. If you bred it to a super you get at least 25% pastel harlequins. The last clutch was 6 eggs and 3 were pastel wide stripes. I know for sure it works with fires, anything that makes B.E.L., yellow bellies, and albino's. The males have been bred to about 26 different snakes over 2 seasons.

3. there are 3 lines of wide stripe out there. VMS/Pro Exotics line, a Canadian line, and a line from Italy.

I bought 4 wide stripes from VMS 2 males and 2 females. All of them have been used and all produced wide stripe offspring. I know the person now owns the 4 and there offspring and they are working on a few projects that might be shown off this year but most likely next year.

What do you think about the female I posted a picture of? I got a pastel male and pastel yb female from her...do you think they are worth breeding together?

Dave