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  • 04-25-2011, 11:36 PM
    Bellabob
    Re: So I Flicked a Pinky Mouse On The Head....
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Freakie_frog View Post
    Dumb question..and this is just me but..unless you are assist or force feeding why prekill a pinkie?

    P.S. I've seen these little rats jump from 6 feet up in the air hit the cement floor twitch for a few second get up and shake it off so was it dead ... 50/50

    Exuse me for being concerned. I wanted to make sure. I care about the prey items almost as much as my snakes. I don't want them to be in pain.

    You pre kill it if you want some frozens.
  • 04-26-2011, 12:23 AM
    LadyOhh
    Re: So I Flicked a Pinky Mouse On The Head....
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Bellabob View Post
    Exuse me for being concerned. I wanted to make sure. I care about the prey items almost as much as my snakes. I don't want them to be in pain.

    You pre kill it if you want some frozens.

    I think the point that everyone is trying to make is that it sounds like you caused more trauma to the pinky than necessary, seeing as how the pinky would not harm the snake, and the snakes form of killing is less damaging than flicking.

    Being concerned is an awesome thing, and I applaud you for it, but I think the matter in which you dispatched the pinky was unnecessary.

    Think of it this way. I'd rather die from lack of oxygen than traumatic brain injury.

    Good for you for caring though. Not many people do.
  • 04-26-2011, 12:26 AM
    Bellabob
    Re: So I Flicked a Pinky Mouse On The Head....
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by LadyOhh View Post
    I think the point that everyone is trying to make is that it sounds like you caused more trauma to the pinky than necessary, seeing as how the pinky would not harm the snake, and the snakes form of killing is less damaging than flicking.

    Being concerned is an awesome thing, and I applaud you for it, but I think the matter in which you dispatched the pinky was unnecessary.

    Think of it this way. I'd rather die from lack of oxygen than traumatic brain injury.

    Good for you for caring though. Not many people do.

    One flick on the head seemed to not dispatch it, so I flicked it twice on the very top of its skull. I did not intend to mash its brains into liquid.
  • 04-26-2011, 12:39 AM
    LadyOhh
    Re: So I Flicked a Pinky Mouse On The Head....
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Bellabob View Post
    One flick on the head seemed to not dispatch it, so I flicked it twice on the very top of its skull. I did not intend to mash its brains into liquid.

    Intentions aside, take the advice as what it is. It happened, I'm sure you don't plan on doing it again.

    Live and learn.
  • 04-26-2011, 12:42 AM
    shelliebear
    Re: So I Flicked a Pinky Mouse On The Head....
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by LadyOhh View Post
    I think the point that everyone is trying to make is that it sounds like you caused more trauma to the pinky than necessary, seeing as how the pinky would not harm the snake, and the snakes form of killing is less damaging than flicking.

    Being concerned is an awesome thing, and I applaud you for it, but I think the matter in which you dispatched the pinky was unnecessary.

    Think of it this way. I'd rather die from lack of oxygen than traumatic brain injury.

    Good for you for caring though. Not many people do.

    But some corn snakes swallow the pinky alive! :( How does that cause less trauma than flicking it on the head? I don't understand. Being eaten alive seems worse. :( Then again I don't have the stomach to find out how quick they die whilst being eaten alive. :( :(
    Also, why won't CO2 work for pinkies?
  • 04-26-2011, 12:55 AM
    MissDizzyBee
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by shelliebear View Post
    But some corn snakes swallow the pinky alive! :( How does that cause less trauma than flicking it on the head? I don't understand. Being eaten alive seems worse. :( Then again I don't have the stomach to find out how quick they die whilst being eaten alive. :( :(
    Also, why won't CO2 work for pinkies?

    They don't need enough oxygen that tiny to effectively be gassed.

    Also, I have first hand experience with the corns. My little one never even bothers to constrict, just starts trying to cram it down her throat.
  • 04-26-2011, 12:57 AM
    LadyOhh
    In those cases, I would feed FT.

    Cornsnakes are not known for their selective feeding habits.

    CO2 works for pinkies, you just are more than likely not using enough of it. Smaller animal, same sized tank or box, more CO2 needed to get it into their system.
  • 04-28-2011, 08:53 AM
    mainbutter
    Re: So I Flicked a Pinky Mouse On The Head....
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by village idiot View Post
    Sad!!! Theres no reason to prekill a pink mouse PERIOD!:rage:

    With due respect to others here i spare my rant:bow:

    ....

    I will rant the OPPOSITE.

    I had one experience feeding live pinks to a corn snake. The snake snarfed three or four down without constricting any of 'em, just straight swallowing. You could hear the pinks squeaking from inside the snake for at least a good 30 seconds, possibly longer. 30 seconds is far too long for the suffering of a feeder to be acceptable.

    I've never fed live pinks since.

    Many snakes view pinks as not needing constriction, I've seen this behavior particularly in North American colubrids who are known to hunt down mice inside their burrows.
  • 04-28-2011, 11:20 AM
    MissDizzyBee
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by mainbutter View Post
    ....

    I will rant the OPPOSITE.

    I had one experience feeding live pinks to a corn snake. The snake snarfed three or four down without constricting any of 'em, just straight swallowing. You could hear the pinks squeaking from inside the snake for at least a good 30 seconds, possibly longer. 30 seconds is far too long for the suffering of a feeder to be acceptable.

    I've never fed live pinks since.

    Many snakes view pinks as not needing constriction, I've seen this behavior particularly in North American colubrids who are known to hunt down mice inside their burrows.

    That's exactly what happened to me. My little corn has been on frozen ever since that. Blech.

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  • 09-07-2011, 05:58 PM
    Simplex
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by LadyOhh View Post
    Think of it this way. I'd rather die from lack of oxygen than traumatic brain injury.
    .

    I 150% disagree with this... Hold your breath for as long as u can... At a certain stage animal fear and panic emerges that they would be dealing with as they die... And speaking from expiernce of someone who has been knocked out its a wake up.. Ouch i hurt so bad.. But wtf happened... Quick flick to the head would be the same minus the wake up. Quick amd painless. Suffocation is a horrible way to die... Second only to drowning imo.

    To the OP. I frankly agree with your actions.. As sad and difficult as it may be you did THE most humane thing. What you witnessed was nerves powering out.. Your pinkie was probly not alive after the first flick. 2nd one shows ur level of concern and thats good.
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