Keep Michael Vick off the cover of Madden '12

Ahhh the madden curse most the time when a football player is on the cover of madden the next football season the have a horrible season or get hurt or get in off the field trouble

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Originally Posted by frenchy

Wow really the guy served his time did whatever the courts wanted him to tell me you have never made a mistake in your life are people out to get you still...

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Just because our system gave him 2 years does NOT mean it was enough. It sure as hell doesn't mean that the slate is clean and everyone can go on like nothing ever happened. Are you kidding me?

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...He further admitted that he knew his colleagues killed several dogs who did not perform well. He admitted to being involved in the destruction of 6–8 dogs, by hanging or drowning.

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Understood I never said I agreed w what he did but when Ben Rothlisburger whom has been accused multiple times of RAPE was on the cover nobody cared just cyz he wasnt charged cuz he paid off the girls if Vick couldvhave paid someone off he would have and then there wouldnt be this issue

But as I also stated the cover of madden is proformance based not any other reason and vick had a way better year than hill


AGAIN I DONT AGREE W WHAT HE DID DONT LIKE IT ONE BIT HE SCREWD UP BUT HES DOIN HIS BEST TO CHANGE EVERYONES MIND.

think about it ben rapes someone that girl is scared for life but we all forget it kobe as well but all forgtten but dogs o never let him get passed it

So, in this thread we have people advocating lying and cheating to get the resluts they prefer.

Ok, got that.

Then there are some who are saying that the legal and justice systems are not right and that the people, some of them and apparently none of them on the jury that convicted him, think they should have the right to impose further penalties upon him.

Ok, got that.

Who are you guys again and why do you get this power?

Go Vick! I can't believe people are so quick to throw rocks. I'm sure everyone posting has led a "saintly" life. :rolleyes:

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I'm sure the people here who at some point in their life may have lied, cheated, stolen, etc.. But I doubt those same people took pleasure in abusing and torturing another living thing, over and over and over...

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Originally Posted by Foschi Exotic Serpents

I'm sure the people here who at some point in their life may have lied, cheated, stolen, etc.. But I doubt those same people took pleasure in abusing and torturing another living thing, over and over and over...

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Then it comes down to do you believe in our justice system. If you do, they while it is perfectly fine to voice your opinions about his sentence do you really think it's ok to judge him guilty of further crimes for what you think he felt, which he may have, and which he may not now feel.

Rat breeders cull rats. Horse breeders cull horses. vick did some stupid and cruel things, which as far as I know he has not repeated.

Didn't some of you give crutchfield a pass after he did time? Wanna bet on whether everything that passed through his hands after he got out was legit?

Seems to be a bit of double standard happening. No crutchfield didn't get convicted of cruelty to animals. But he was convicted of a crime that we KNOW kills thousands and thousands of animals every year. Some of them die is some dang cruel ways.

But I guess it's ok to have a double standard.

Unless you have some ethics stronger than a paper straw.

Some people place a higher value on animals than people. That's how PETA and its derivitives survive and grow. That's back asswards thinking in my book. Animals are animals. People are people. People > animals.

If your dog or a stranger was drowning, who would you save? If you even had to think about it you're a seriously deranged individual.

I've made terrible mistakes in my life like many people but at least I admit it. I definitely don't sit on a high and mighty pedastal and point at other people. Just my $.02...

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Originally Posted by Simple Man

If your dog or a stranger was drowning, who would you save? If you even had to think about it you're a seriously deranged individual.

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Maybe it 's just me, but my first thought was I'd save my dog and my second thought was maybe not but it would depend on how the person came to be drowning. Circumstances matter.

I hate Vick....aaaand I'm a packers fan. (I inherited it from my dad) It's the only football I watch. So yeah always happy to vote against vick.

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Originally Posted by Simple Man

Some people place a higher value on animals than people. That's how PETA and its derivitives survive and grow. That's back asswards thinking in my book. Animals are animals. People are people. People > animals.

If your dog or a stranger was drowning, who would you save? If you even had to think about it you're a seriously deranged individual.

I've made terrible mistakes in my life like many people but at least I admit it. I definitely don't sit on a high and mighty pedastal and point at other people. Just my $.02...

B

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Yeah....totally saving my dog.