"Salmonella" question!

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Originally Posted by kitedemon

I am not careful around the snakes but around raw chicken... If he did and you didn't where did he eat besides home. And speaking from someone who has had Salmonella, it is the most sick I have ever been a bit of upset and feeling ill isn't likely to be salmonella poisoning in the first place.

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Sorry to bump a really old thread but I didn't see this before.

He didn't eat chicken or anything that week. I originally stated that I think he got it from contaminated lettuce and not from our snake and I still stand by that. It was salmonella because he got tested at the hospital.

BTW...E. Coli is the worst I ever ever been sick in my life as well!

Food poisoning is effing scary!

Yes, food poisoning is terrible! I had it a few months ago and never once thought it was from the snakes (bad chicken instead). We got our first snake when our youngest son was only 6 months old, so we were extra careful with the handling and hand washing (and still are!). There's always a chance of getting it because ball pythons are egg laying animals, but I'd worry more about getting bad food somewhere. Just keep hand washing and using sanitizer and you'll be fine.

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Originally Posted by angllady2

I handle my babies regularly, give most of them kisses and nibbles when I hold them.

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^ This? adorable. :blowkiss:

Heehee. ^.^

So your got the idea wash your hands before and after, one thing about salmonella is that its in allll egg laying creatures not just snakes, soo uncooked meat or even unpasterized milk, now the symptoms are heavy and strong nuesea, abdominal pain, migranes and vomit its something u gotta go to the hospital for but if you do catch salmonella the up side is that you get cured in about 2 weeks and lastly you catch salmonella from the vent of your snake, soo if its on ur clothes its no big deal, its nott contageous and u don't catch it by rubbing it on your skin, its by you swallowing it and taking it down to the tummy, I did I project on this ^.^

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Originally Posted by JayyPastel24

So your got the idea wash your hands before and after, one thing about salmonella is that its in allll egg laying creatures not just snakes, soo uncooked meat or even unpasterized milk, now the symptoms are heavy and strong nuesea, abdominal pain, migranes and vomit its something u gotta go to the hospital for but if you do catch salmonella the up side is that you get cured in about 2 weeks and lastly you catch salmonella from the vent of your snake, soo if its on ur clothes its no big deal, its nott contageous and u don't catch it by rubbing it on your skin, its by you swallowing it and taking it down to the tummy, I did I project on this ^.^

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I assume you're replying to me but you're post is very incoherent(no offense but it is) and I can barely even comprehend what you are trying to say.

no one and i mean no one ...well maybe howie mandell, washes his hands or sanitizes more then i do but if i was to get anything itd be most likely from take out foods. No matter how clean you keep the snake theres always a chance that they get dirty so you can get it from them but washing before and after handling then it shouldnt be a problem Again, cook at home and practice safe food handling more often and youll see less health problems.

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Originally Posted by deathadder1069

no one and i mean no one ...well maybe howie mandell, washes his hands or sanitizes more then i do but if i was to get anything itd be most likely from take out foods. No matter how clean you keep the snake theres always a chance that they get dirty so you can get it from them but washing before and after handling then it shouldnt be a problem Again, cook at home and practice safe food handling more often and youll see less health problems.

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I even stated in the first post that I didn't think he got it from our BP. The only reason I started this thread is because I wanted to make sure.

And no he didn't get it from improperly handling meat and not cleaning either.

He didn't get it from a restaurant and he didn't get it from meat....it was from contaminated lettuce that he ate in a salad on his lunch break at work!

YES even "produce" can get contaminated with foodbourne illnesses!(BEFORE people even buy it) That is how he got it!!!

yes even germany had problems here lately with contaminated veggies...e coli to be exact but its bad when you can get sick from foods that are natural...all comes down to handling of the food...sometimes i wish lettuce was a canned item but alas its the only produce that cant be processed in such a way hehehe

I used to be a manager at a large chicken restaurant chain. Since chicken is such a high risk of salmonella, we got a lot of training on it.

Salmonella is one of the three pathogenic bacteria most often associated with sickness in humans. The other two are Ecoli, and Staphalococous(sp?). Salmonella is generally transmitted to humans by contact or consumption with infected animals. All egg laying animals are potential carriers of the salmonella bacteria. Since it is a bacteria, it needs food, warmth, and time to grow. At -18 deg C, they do not multiply, at 0 to 5 deg C, they multiply extremely slowly, which is why food outlets keep their deep freezers at -18 deg C, and they're cold rooms at 0 to 5 degrees C. The optimal temperature for bacteria is 37 Deg C, at this temperature they can multiply 4 times in 5 minutes!! However, they are also sensitive to high temperature and at 85 Deg C plus, they struggle to multiply, this is the reason that restaurants like KFC, who keep pre cooked chicken, keep them in warmers that run at +85 to +90 Deg C.

To avoid possible contamination with salmonella, you need do nothing more than adhere to some simple hygiene practices. Never handle food after handling a reptile, until you have washed your hands with ANTI BACTERIAL soap, or used a gel type anti bacterial sanitizer. Normal soaps are not anti bacterial, and as such, will have no affect on the pathogens. This is why restaurants have different chopping boards for different items. You can't chop chicken on a board, then make a salad on it. Salads don't get cooked, and so the bacteria from the raw chicken will then infest the salad!! The same applies at home, and with our reptiles.

As a side note, food poisoning will generally occur within 6 hours after eating infected food. What this means is, if you eat a restaurant, and are sick within 6 hours after this, assuming you have not eaten anything else, it's a good chance they are to blame. Same goes if you eat any food. If however, you are sick after the 6 hour period, then the chances are it was not what ever you ate!