confusion between a few morphs need visual and verbal help

i am just saying.......why is when someone ask what to look for to detect a certain morph the best answer people can come up with is trust who you buy from. we all know how that goes look at chris johnson alot of people trusrted him and that did not go so well. what i am talking about is like the vinilla what trait do you look for ? like the yellow belly has the head marker and the belly. the other morphs that is hard to tell is a fire ,special and the mystic to name a few.

john patino

Well, for me the vanilla in particular I have personal experience with.

Now, I've seen supposed vanillas that I've stared at for an hour or more that I could not say it wasn't normal.

My own personal vanillas, a male and female I acquired at around 160 grams, there was no mistaking them for anything but vanilla. They looked like a normal that had been dipped in bleach, for lack of a better term. Their bodies were light golden brown and their markings were pale sand. They had bright glowing headspots and bright sandy blushing. Now the male we kept, and as he got older his bright colors faded and now he looks more normal than he did as a baby. Which from what I understand is really unusual.

So, if I were in the market for another vanilla, I'd look for that bright wash over the body, the super distinct headspot, and the light blushing. Those would be the keys to finding a vanilla FOR ME.

Gale

There is one good wayto figure out the difference in themystic and mojave...and its the belly. All my mojaves have a real clear belly, but the mystics have pattern and coloration onthe belly, so when they hatch out of the eggs all the mojaves have a super clean and clear bellies and the mystics have pattern, hope this helps.

Interesting stuff all around, I love the vanilla x normal photo and description--that put my own confusion to rest. :) I love any kind of comparison photos!

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Originally Posted by Matt K

In the case of Lessers and Butters, if it weren't for the original Platty Daddy having another gene affecting it, they might have been called the same thing--but I really don't have the information needed to say that for sure.

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I dont understand this. Ralph named the original "Platty" a platinum. When the first clutch hatched he noticed that none looked like the father and called them lesser platinum. Not butters. I believe it was either NERD or BHB that named theirs butter, correct me if I am wrong here.

Anyone have a good pic of a "ringer" on a het pied? Also.....if a 0.1 is female and a 1.0 is male,....what is a 0.0.1?:confused:

A 0.0.1 is an unsexed.

Here is a possible het pied girl I have high hopes for. She has a little bit of a ringer. I've seen a few het pieds with clean white rings all the way around the back looking almost like low white pieds.

http://snakemorphs.com/images/F08PREM05_belly_med.jpg

Was it the Bells that started butters? Not sure if they had them before the Platy but I suppose if they did and Ralph's import had been just a lesser and not the Platy combo he might have called it a butter. But since Ralph started out with the awesome lesser\\hidden combo it got it’s own name (Platy) and then the single gene offspring got the related name “lesser platy” and didn’t start getting compared to butters until later.