Vs. - Pros & Cons Please

Just as a FYI - I am not getting it any time here soon it would be at least another year or 2 before i even start getting the stuff together for another but i wanted to learn more about each now than just say oh i like that and jump on a poorly made decision (if that makes any sense)

But i do want to thank all of you for being so great on the info for these types of snakes I have loved reading all the feedback i have gotten so far :D

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Originally Posted by mainbutter

7 feet is HUGE for a BRB, they in no way shape or form get anywhere close to 9 feet. Many MANY adults stay well under 7 feet.

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Was just going to say this; my brother had a pair (male died last summer, unknown cause :(), and neither of them were over 6 feet. I haven't handled the female, but the male was a beautiful, docile animal who never showed any aggression. He was pretty active during handling, though, so I'd agree with the poster who suggested that a BRB wouldn't work very well as a put on your shoulders while you do chores snake. :)

Sorry heres a dumb ?

Are certain types of RTB better than others? Ive seen a lot of different Redtail types being listed and just wanted to see what the real difference was in them other than their locale. Are some bigger than others or more docile than others?

All I really know is some localities are bigger than others. TRUE red tail boas will be bigger. Colombian "red tail" boas(common boas) are slightly smaller. Central American are even smaller than that. There are a bunch of localities, and I'm sure more people can help you out. All I have is my baby colombian female :D

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Originally Posted by Bp_Lee_2011

Sorry heres a dumb ?

Are certain types of RTB better than others? Ive seen a lot of different Redtail types being listed and just wanted to see what the real difference was in them other than their locale. Are some bigger than others or more docile than others?

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Red Tail Boas are classified as follows:

Boa Constrictor Constrictor (BCC)- These are the "true red tails." These are generally the largest in size and maintain their red tails into adulthood. They come from:
Peru
Brazil
Venezuela
Suriname
Guyana

Boa Constrictor Imperator (BCI)- This is the largest group of boa constrictors. They include the boas from Central America:
Colombia
Panama
Costa Rica
Nicaraqua
Mexico: Tamaulipas, Tarahumara
and the insular islands:
Hogg Island
Caulker Cay
Crawl Cay
Corn Island
Pearl Island

Boa Constrictor Amarali (BCA)- Bolivian boa constrictors

Boa Constrictor Longicauda (BCL)- These come from the Tumbes region of Peru. They are also known as the Peruvian Long-tail Boa, as they have a higher scale count from their vent to tail tip, than the Peruvian BCC.

Boa Constrictor Occidentalis (BCO)- Argentine boa constrictors.

It is best to research each of these, as they have different sizes, colorings, and growth rates. Here are a couple of websites to help you get started:

http://www.cuttingedgeherp.com/contactinformation/

http://www.riobravoreptiles.com/index.htm

If you wanna go for natural beauty, Suriname RTB's look amazing. Their saddling is amazing as well as their deep red markings that can go up 1/3 of their body. You can get them for like $150, maybe even cheaper. Guyanas look great as well and I believe they don't get quite as big, but double check that. These are BCC.

I believe most of the designer morphs are BCI or BCI/BCC hybrids. The average RTB you will see is more than likely a BCI. They do not get quite as big as most of the BCC, however they can still get quite large. The morphs obviously are more expensive than the norms.

I think the general consensus is that most BCC top out around 10-12 and BCI top out around 8-10. There are always exceptions however, and typically it is the females that get to those sizes.

Have you looked into superdwarf reticulated pythons? They max out well under 10 feet and are much thinner bodied than boas if size is a concern for you. They have very distinct patterns and some interesting morphs. Keep in mind you would probably only want a superdwarf, as dwarves and regulars top out at 14-20+ feet.

wow i didnt realize there were that many sub-species in Red Tails. Thanks! Ill def look at those sites you posted :)

I think i'd be pushing the boundaries with a 6-8 foot boa already LOL he was having a fit about my BP "Oh I was told they get huge...I thought it was a small snake" I told him to pipe down and I had never intended on getting a garter snake. Men sometimes. But you said superdwarf retics are they a hybrid cross? or just from breeding from smaller sized stock?

Also-- sorry ive searched and cant really find an answer on this I keep getting lengths not weights and I cant really guess weight based on just length-

What is the general weight on BRB, RTB (BCI), and Dumerils? sorry I know im being a pain but with so many knowledgable people here i figured i'd see if anyone had the answer. :D

This is really just a guess for an average BRB weight but somewhere around 1400g to 1900g (3-4lbs) when full grown. Hopefully someone with a better idea can give a closer estimate.

So they weigh around the same as a BP then Ok I dont know why But any pics i have ever seen of BRB always look like the snake is tiny and around the size of a cornsnake.