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  • 02-08-2011, 09:54 AM
    pavlovk1025
    Stop hating on the method/delivery, and just be thankful that he spared a life that most people would just post a sad thread about.

    Snake is alive, obviously he did fine.

    Key notes- wash hands, sterilize needle, Lysol counters. Got it.

    Thank you Ralph. :gj:
  • 02-08-2011, 09:59 AM
    mainbutter
    Re: Thoughts on Ralph Davis' newest controversial youtube video?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by BroknBusted View Post
    but being in the medical field, the fact he did that sans any sterile proceedure is a HUGE no no

    Interesting note: My girlfriend just got back from doing health work in Tanzania.

    There was one woman who had her stitches removed a few weeks after a c-section. She left the hospital, only to return a few hours later with her wound completely open, holding her intestines in her hands to keep them from falling on the ground.

    Apparently, in a non-sterile procedure (but with gloves), doctors shoved her intestines back in her, slathered lidocaine over the exterior of the wound, and splashed iodine elsewhere before sewing her up again.

    Just food for thought on "being in the medical field" and how sometimes, some places don't have the means for sterile procedures.
  • 02-08-2011, 10:06 AM
    Jonas@Balls2TheWall
    Bottom line is he saved the ssnakes life. Good for him.
  • 02-08-2011, 10:21 AM
    monk90222
    Re: Thoughts on Ralph Davis' newest controversial youtube video?
    Got to give him props. A breeder of that caliber putting that much time and effort into a 50% Het pied is really great. When you are dealing with $20K snakes on a daily basis, its commendable to care for a $50 snake just as much.
  • 02-08-2011, 10:28 AM
    purplemuffin
    Re: Thoughts on Ralph Davis' newest controversial youtube video?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by monk90222 View Post
    When you are dealing with $20K snakes on a daily basis, its commendable to care for a $50 snake just as much.

    :D I agree, though, isn't that why most people get into breeding in the first place.... for the love of our beautiful snakes? :P I think it's good to see the compassion most definitely! He hasn't lost sight of what is important! Sure it's a little more work than just freezing the poor thing.. but you're saving a life there!

    I think he did great! Yeah, he could have worn gloves, but he didn't and the snake was okay. Still better off than it was!!

    I am very glad that girl is okay :)

    Though, I wonder if any damage was done with her organs, I know he plans to breed her, but I wonder if he has any other genetic deformities/if the one she had kinda funked up her maternal organs!
  • 02-08-2011, 10:33 AM
    AMBiEN22
    First off I've watched his videos in the past and like others have said he is an amazing breeder. last night I was surfing the forums too and was curious what the most replied to topic was. I ran into a topic were a hatchlings heart was hanging out. In both cases the animal pulled through thanks to the caring nature of the breeders. Kudos for both, as said before it shows these breeders are in it for the long hall thick and thin its not :colbert: all about the money.

    As stated before to I'm a noob and I see it. Then again anyone that doesn't I feel bad for you...
  • 02-08-2011, 10:35 AM
    BroknBusted
    Again I am glad he saved this snake however I stand by what I said and still believe sterility is a MUST when doing something like this. Washing you hands isn't being sterile! And yes, even in a sterile enviorment things can go wrong, but the chances are MUCH MUCH higher with non-strile technique, instruments and proceedures.

    And I also have to wonder, why did this guy not take the snake to a qualified vet? I watch him stuffing the snakes intestines back in without regard to wether there may be a tear in them. Maybe he did that off cam, but I doubt it. Had their been, the snake would have developed sepsis within 24 hours and died a horrible painful death! Surely it isn't because he could not afford a vet.

    I think that a video like this, while having a positive outcome, could also be very dangerous when just the average person sees it. It is apparent this guy has tons of experience with snakes. However, I do not, as I am sure at least half the folks who have watched the video do not, and to think someone like that would attempt this proceedure themselves is scary.

    Again, before I get slammed, I am glad the snake surivived. But as pointed out by someone here, the guy deals with 20k snakes on a daily basis. He should have paid for a quailified vet to handle something like properly. Do not attempt this on you own!
  • 02-08-2011, 10:52 AM
    amgbabyboi
    Re: Thoughts on Ralph Davis' newest controversial youtube video?
    In my opinion, Ralph Davies did a great job in saving the BP from dying. In fact, he is one of the best breeders for me. He treats his job/hobby with great passion and is kind enough to share it to other hobbyist/enthusiast (whatever you may want to call it). Also, I can say that his videos is very raw and informative. HANDS UP FR MR RALPH DAVIES! RDR! :gj::gj::gj::D:D:D
  • 02-08-2011, 10:56 AM
    BPelizabeth
    I stated this pretty much in the quarantine section but again we do not know that he did not sterilize everything. That is an assumptioin that he didn't.

    As far as giving the snake a sedative....and someone correct me if I am wrong. Its very dangerous to give a snake anything like that. I think I have read before that many do not do well with sedatives and in fact that itself can kill the snake.
  • 02-08-2011, 11:08 AM
    BroknBusted
    Re: Thoughts on Ralph Davis' newest controversial youtube video?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by BPelizabeth View Post
    I stated this pretty much in the quarantine section but again we do not know that he did not sterilize everything. That is an assumptioin that he didn't.

    As far as giving the snake a sedative....and someone correct me if I am wrong. Its very dangerous to give a snake anything like that. I think I have read before that many do not do well with sedatives and in fact that itself can kill the snake.

    I can not comment on the sedation but I can state that being sterile isn't just washing you hands and counter top. It is using sterile gloves, autoclaved sterilized wrapped instruments, sterile work enviorment and sterile proceedures. I would bet my next months paycheck the items he used were washed and cleaned as were his hands. THAT is not being sterile though! And a non sterile environment can lead to some serious infections that would be more harm to the snake then the initial injury.

    I am NOT condemming this man! I think the fact he did anything at all is really great. From what I have read he is a great breeder and cares for his snakes. I wouldn't mind buying one from him someday myself!

    I just think, giving his experience and care for his animals, taking that little extra step to ensure the snake is protected is a must. I can almost guarantee that if ANYONE here went to a vet for something this serious and found the snake to have an infection 24 hours later as a direct result of the vet not usuing sterility, you would be angry! I know I would!
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