very importent can some1 help me asap plz

Hi,

If you can get the temps to those levels in your wooden viv I'd say you are golden - assuming you are measuring with a good digital thermostat inside the hides where the snake actually is. If you are measuring half way up the wall with those little dial analogue junkers then notsomuch. :rolleyes:

UTH's really can't get the heat through 1/4 inch of melamine very well so if you were forced to use on I would put it inside then put some kind of covering over it like glass or tile with a spacer of some description so the mat isn't completely sandwitched tight between the surfaces. You will need a hole to put the cable in anyway and enough space for the thermostat probe so add a few extra holes for airflow to the outside of the viv and then silicon seal it so it is completely watertight (or pee tight to be blunt ) from the inside.

Bit of a hassle really and the silicon would need at least 24 hours to cure before the snake could be put back in.

So, if your temps are fine 24/7, I probably wouldn't recommend it. :)

I kept royals in viv's with ceramic heaters for years before I moved to tubs - though it does murder the humidity. :taz:

Tubs win every time though - they suit the snakes natural behaviour and needs a lot better.


dr del

Well snakes go when they want to go. Heck my Chondro might only poop once ever 5-6 weeks, so no big deal. I also have younger snakes that defecate every 3-5 days like clockwork.

Your temperatures sound fine, but if he is 985 grams, he should be eating a small or medium rat once ever 10-14 days.

i glad my temps are fine its 33c in warm hide ? i like to only feed mice is this bad ?

plus glad my snakes toilet worrys are ok was a bit worried but feel betta now

heat sencor is in the hide some times he comes over from cool end and sits on it an sets it off.

ok I saw this on my corn snake forum they but a uth heater in the inside and then but 18 inc x 18 inc tile ontop of it and then sealed it in with silicone so the snake cant get to the the UTH just a idea

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Originally Posted by dr del

Hi,

If you can get the temps to those levels in your wooden viv I'd say you are golden - assuming you are measuring with a good digital thermostat inside the hides where the snake actually is. If you are measuring half way up the wall with those little dial analogue junkers then notsomuch. :rolleyes:

UTH's really can't get the heat through 1/4 inch of melamine very well so if you were forced to use on I would put it inside then put some kind of covering over it like glass or tile with a spacer of some description so the mat isn't completely sandwitched tight between the surfaces. You will need a hole to put the cable in anyway and enough space for the thermostat probe so add a few extra holes for airflow to the outside of the viv and then silicon seal it so it is completely watertight (or pee tight to be blunt ) from the inside.

Bit of a hassle really and the silicon would need at least 24 hours to cure before the snake could be put back in.

So, if your temps are fine 24/7, I probably wouldn't recommend it. :)

I kept royals in viv's with ceramic heaters for years before I moved to tubs - though it does murder the humidity. :taz:

Tubs win every time though - they suit the snakes natural behaviour and needs a lot better.


dr del

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wont the viv be too heavy to sit on top of the under tank heater ?

Hi,

As I said I don't recommend it under the viv - but if you are determined to try then get some little feet from B&Q to lift the viv up off the floor and then tape the UTH to the underside.

That way there is no pressure on the mat and also a little airflow.


dr del

DON'T put a UTH in the tank. Your bp could get some nasty burns that way, or get too hot. That's why it's called an "under-tank heater"; it goes on the underside of the tank on the outside. :)
The one I got for my 40 gal. tank was about $25. Yeah, they're more expensive than heat bulbs/lamps but they're wonderful for a nice, regulated temperature. I use mine on the cool side and it keeps it exactly between 80-83F 24/7. Definitely worth the cost. (be sure there's space under your tank/tub to allow air flow so it doesn't trap heat and cook your snake by accident!!)

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Originally Posted by xFenrir

DON'T put a UTH in the tank. Your bp could get some nasty burns that way, or get too hot. That's why it's called an "under-tank heater"; it goes on the underside of the tank on the outside. :)
The one I got for my 40 gal. tank was about $25. Yeah, they're more expensive than heat bulbs/lamps but they're wonderful for a nice, regulated temperature. I use mine on the cool side and it keeps it exactly between 80-83F 24/7. Definitely worth the cost. (be sure there's space under your tank/tub to allow air flow so it doesn't trap heat and cook your snake by accident!!)

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if i got 1 it would be going outside the tank . your temps sound a bit to cold ?