Pearl Ball python

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Originally Posted by dragonboy4578

So far all the woma + woma pearls have not lived. From what I have read many died within the egg. Even when talking to large breeders they say the it seem like that cross is not very plausible. The only woma+ woma cross that has lived was the hidden woma crosses.

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Noo, not quite ...

By my understanding, it's the other way around.

The pearl comes from "hidden gene" woma x "hidden gene" woma. Most of them die due to severe neurologic impairment (can't sit upright, spin constantly, can't eat, fail to thrive). Evidently the one that OWAL was shown by Kevin is alive and well, though why this particular one seems to have survived is unclear. :confused:

AFAIK, the "regular" woma that most people work with is most likely simple dominant (ie, the homozygous "super" form looks exactly the same as the heterozygous form) though I haven't heard any suggestive "proof" one way or the other.

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Originally Posted by Serpent_Nirvana

Evidently the one that OWAL was shown by Kevin is alive and well, though why this particular one seems to have survived is unclear. :confused:

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yea they said they had to do more breeding to figure out exactly what "fixed" this one

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Originally Posted by OhhWatALoser

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v5...DSCN0717-1.jpg

living and 100% normal behavior pearl

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What's its price tag? Thx

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Originally Posted by ace_singapore

what's its price tag? Thx

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$nfs

Do you remember if anyone mentioned the pearl's gender? Wondering at minimum how many years to wait hoping for confirmation that it's a breedable homozygous HG Woma. NERD does so many awesome multi mutant crosses just wondering if they could have stumbled on some other combo that made a white snake without getting two copies of HG Woma as thought (i.e. maybe it’s not really a pearl even if both parents had HG woma and presumably a few other genes).

So far only ONE has ever survived and is still alive as of right now. Unfortunately all others die either in the egg or soon after hatching.
Take a look at this video i posted a while ago and you will see how bad they can get. At around the 5:10 mark is the more extreme one :(
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jq4hOaROpwg

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Originally Posted by RandyRemington

Do you remember if anyone mentioned the pearl's gender? Wondering at minimum how many years to wait hoping for confirmation that it's a breedable homozygous HG Woma. NERD does so many awesome multi mutant crosses just wondering if they could have stumbled on some other combo that made a white snake without getting two copies of HG Woma as thought (i.e. maybe it’s not really a pearl even if both parents had HG woma and presumably a few other genes).

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This was my thought exactly, but evidently Kevin told the poster (OWAL) that he really thinks it's a pearl (homozygous HGW) ... :confused: I can't help but wonder if it is something else, though, since he says directly in the videos that all of the pearls are "byproducts" of breeding two animals with the HGW gene, so there must've been more to the parents than just straight HGW x HGW ...

Or, maybe the lethal recessive gene is just linked to the HGW gene, not a pleiotropic effect of it, and he finally hit on the homozygous HGW without being homozygous lethal! (That would be pretty awesome -- the first homozygous HGW cross in MABalls's video is rokken!)

I thought Kevin said it survived because it has something else mixed in with it. That HG Woma x HG Woma was fatal but if you added say Lesser(or any other morph) it would survive?

OT: Welcome to the Jungle is my ringtone so when I started the video I started going crazy looking for my phone..... "I can hear it.... Where's my phone".... lol

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Originally Posted by TessadasExotics

I thought Kevin said it survived because it has something else mixed in with it. That HG Woma x HG Woma was fatal but if you added say Lesser(or any other morph) it would survive?

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he has to do more breeding to figure out what fixed it, from my understanding everything is just theory right now.

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Originally Posted by Serpent_Nirvana

This was my thought exactly, but evidently Kevin told the poster (OWAL) that he really thinks it's a pearl (homozygous HGW) ... :confused:

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Originally Posted by RandyRemington

(i.e. maybe it’s not really a pearl even if both parents had HG woma and presumably a few other genes).

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Not that its not possible, but I highly doubt NERD would say they have a living pearl and not be sure its a pearl.