What to look for in a Bumblebee

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Originally Posted by LOSTCOAST_BALLZ

how do u look for wobbling I will be attending a show and looking to purchase a male bee or spider. how do i steer clear of wobbleing and or other negative traits. thanks alot. dont mean to steal the thread think that the wobbling thing really is well upsetting

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If you were to ask Kevin McCurley (the guy who produced and proved the first spiders) if every spider has a wobble he would say yes (I've heard it come out of his mouth). Some wobbles are more noticeable than others, but the fact remains that every spider has a wobble. I hatched out 11 spiders last year and each and every one of them had a wobble. The father wasn't related to any of the females he bred and has a very slight wobble (his wobble was very hard to notice and he usually only did it when he was hungry). Some of the offspring had almost uncontrollable wobbles and others had wobbles that you could barely notice. The point I'm trying to make is that no matter if you get a spider that has only a slight wobble or one that has a horrible wobble, either way you will have a 100% chance of producing spiders with a wobble (no matter what the severity, and the severity will most definitely vary per spider). So with that being said... If I were in the market for a spider, the amount of wobble wouldn't matter to me, but the fact that it could thrive or not would. So as long as it was thriving with no troubles I wouldn't have a problem purchasing it or breeding it.

my bumble bee is a little darker then most out there but I like that. Its like most people out there say, its all up to you and what you like. My guy has a slight wobble but its only right before he strikes his food. Now when I had my male spider he didn't have a wobble until he hit months and it was only right before he ate not to bad. Just take your time in what your looking for and if possible see if you can find one at a local show so you can see for yourself.

I try and look for the least amount of brown scales on the sides of the dorsal. If there are a lot of brown scale, the snake will brown out a ton over time. So i look for the brightest yellows and darkest blacks aside from the black speckles.

i prefer reduced pattern, no spots(pattern spots) less speckling the better. dont really care if its high white or not. high white is nice though. wobble doesnt bother me as long as it isnt so bad it looks retarded and is corkscrewing all over the place.
the pastel line it comes from does make a differance. nerds lemon pastel line makes really nice yellow pastels. ive seen some adult bees look like normal spiders they have browned out so much. all spiders will brown out to a point. their is no way to tell how much one will brown out from looking at it as a baby.
seeing pictures of parents and knowing what pastel line will be your best help in guessing what it will look like as an adult.
adam jeffery

When looking for a 'good' bee look for one that isn't dirty. The dirtiness will just enhance with age, because like all others they dull/darken with age.

Anything with the spider gene has the possibility to wobble. Just like with Spiders you can get one with a horrible wobble who has babies with very minimal wobble or a one with minimal wobble who has babies with horrible wobble, it's a roll of the dice. Wobble really doesn't effect the snake, it will thrive just like any other. Of course there are extreme cases, but those are usually found when mixing lots of genes (the woma is especially known for that).

My spider doesn't have a noticeable wobble to the untrained eye but he's a little.... slow, to put it nicely. He's been a real bitter lately, I think he's lost it :P

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Originally Posted by SlitherinSisters

When looking for a 'good' bee look for one that isn't dirty. The dirtiness will just enhance with age, because like all others they dull/darken with age.

Anything with the spider gene has the possibility to wobble. Just like with Spiders you can get one with a horrible wobble who has babies with very minimal wobble or a one with minimal wobble who has babies with horrible wobble, it's a roll of the dice. Wobble really doesn't effect the snake, it will thrive just like any other. Of course there are extreme cases, but those are usually found when mixing lots of genes (the woma is especially known for that).

My spider doesn't have a noticeable wobble to the untrained eye but he's a little.... slow, to put it nicely. He's been a real bitter lately, I think he's lost it :P

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Very well put!

i like the high white with bright yellow sides. it also looks really nice when the black lines create a x and o board with yellow bordering the blacks. but that is just my opinion :D here is my bee i think its perfect!http://s1133.photobucket.com/albums/...t_action=album

Thanks for the info. This is very helpful!

here is the pic i was trying to post hope it works this time http://i1133.photobucket.com/albums/...9/SANY1207.jpg

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Originally Posted by PassionsPythons

If you were to ask Kevin McCurley (the guy who produced and proved the first spiders) if every spider has a wobble he would say yes (I've heard it come out of his mouth). Some wobbles are more noticeable than others, but the fact remains that every spider has a wobble. I hatched out 11 spiders last year and each and every one of them had a wobble. The father wasn't related to any of the females he bred and has a very slight wobble (his wobble was very hard to notice and he usually only did it when he was hungry). Some of the offspring had almost uncontrollable wobbles and others had wobbles that you could barely notice. The point I'm trying to make is that no matter if you get a spider that has only a slight wobble or one that has a horrible wobble, either way you will have a 100% chance of producing spiders with a wobble (no matter what the severity, and the severity will most definitely vary per spider). So with that being said... If I were in the market for a spider, the amount of wobble wouldn't matter to me, but the fact that it could thrive or not would. So as long as it was thriving with no troubles I wouldn't have a problem purchasing it or breeding it.

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Agreed - he was showing me a new mutation when I was up there visiting and it had a wobble and he made the comment - "well, as you can see spider is one of the genes in the mix". Of course this was a 4 or 5 gene animal. Makes no difference - if there's spider in it, it will wobble.