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  • 12-06-2010, 08:56 PM
    Subdriven
    That is one huge 09!!!

    I'd almost wait..
  • 12-07-2010, 05:04 AM
    Big Gunns
    Re: If an 09 female is up to size should she breed ?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by ed4281 View Post
    I will probably wait till next year but I was curious what you all think. My 09 normal female is 1957 grams. (I don't power feed; she gets 1 med rat a week and has never, ever skipped.) My pastel male is an 09 as well and weighs 2000 grams; he has gone off food and is acting like he is in the mood. I just wanted to know what you all would do.

    Breed them. Your female is even big enough for all the "experts" to give you the OK.:D

    Let BG ask you this. If your male came across your female in the wild....do you think he'd ask her how old she was before he started pulling out his thingy?:D
  • 12-07-2010, 09:43 AM
    DemmBalls
    Re: If an 09 female is up to size should she breed ?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Big Gunns View Post
    If your male came across your female in the wild....do you think he'd ask her how old she was before he started pulling out his thingy?:D

    This is how I look at it too. If they bumped into each other in the wild...What is stopping them?
  • 12-07-2010, 01:34 PM
    Blue Apple Herps
    Ed, pair them up!! My pastel girl bred at a year of age. Same thing, she was fed one rat a week and was huge after a year, just a freaky metabolism.
  • 12-07-2010, 05:13 PM
    irishanaconda
    i agree
    My mojave female bred at 1 1/2 years old and laid a nice clutch of five eggs.... she was about 1800g at the time.
  • 12-07-2010, 06:14 PM
    ace_singapore
    Re: If an 09 female is up to size should she breed ?
    May I ask what morphs are they? The reason I am asking is unless you have some other 'bigger' plan for the girl next year, it will be ok to try them out now. Looking at the way she's been growing, she could just be up to size again in no time...
  • 12-07-2010, 07:07 PM
    ed4281
    Re: If an 09 female is up to size should she breed ?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Blue Apple Herps View Post
    Ed, pair them up!! My pastel girl bred at a year of age. Same thing, she was fed one rat a week and was huge after a year, just a freaky metabolism.

    Matthew,

    Is that her mother that was that big maybe it's genetic, because the male is huge too ?
  • 12-08-2010, 01:38 PM
    Blue Apple Herps
    Re: If an 09 female is up to size should she breed ?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by ed4281 View Post
    Matthew,

    Is that her mother that was that big maybe it's genetic, because the male is huge too ?

    Ed, I think they were both from her IIRC. But the super pastel female I held back from that clutch is a year old now and only 700g. Maybe its genetic, maybe not. Who knows?
  • 12-08-2010, 02:53 PM
    wRobio
    Re: If an 09 female is up to size should she breed ?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Blue Apple Herps View Post
    Ed, I think they were both from her IIRC. But the super pastel female I held back from that clutch is a year old now and only 700g. Maybe its genetic, maybe not. Who knows?

    I have been thinking a lot about how genes influence metabolism/growth.

    I got a late '08 female pinstripe that weighed 2000 grams December '09, and I went through a similar period of trying to determine if I should let her keep growing or pair her up. I decided to pair her up when she decided to stop eating and was spending all her time in her water dish (I had not cooled her at all), so I put my mojave boy in with her and a few months later she laid 9 good eggs. The jigsaw that I kept from the clutch is huge, they hatch late July of this year and she is over 600 grams from a weekly feeding (she has gotten extra small meals a few times). I also still have a pinstripe male and mojave female from the clutch that are both growing super fast (400-500grams), and then there is one mojave girl that has been on the same schedule but is only around 200 grams. I have also been told that the other jigsaw female from the clutch is growing like a monster.

    Hopefully the metabolism keeps up and the large clutch size is genetic as well.
  • 12-08-2010, 08:44 PM
    Blue Apple Herps
    It makes sense. I mean look at people. People grow at all different rates even though they eat somewhat similar amounts. Not surprising that snakes would have various growth rates as well.
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