thanks P.R for your responses, the albino had old shed stuck to him , so i soaked him for an hour in warm water and it all came off, and they both ate the night i bought them i went to petco and got some frozen fuzzies they both ate them fastly. if they are a pair what kind of babys could i expect? what size do they usually breed, and they are both reduced pattern none of the rings go all the way around on either of the snakes.