Is it a Sumatran?

Ditto on looking like brongersmai to me.. then again I'm far from an expert on short tailed pythons. I'm still a little fuzzy on sumatrans in particular.

It is a brongersmai, and it could be sumatran local, but that I wouldn't be able to tell unfortunately... Definately a brong though! And a sweet one at that! Congrats! ~Caylan.S.~

Thats a Bringersmai no doubt about it

Its going to be hard to say definitively whether or not its Sumatran/Malaysian or even Bangka locality. Though anyone with Bangkas usually knows it and would tell you as they are sometimesbred for their pure lineage.

Pure Malaysians are also hard to find, and most Bloods now a days are a mix of the Sumatran and Malaysian localities, or just straight Sumatran.

Hope that helped:D

Thanks for the ID guys!

I am actually psyched to hear it is a Brongersmai, because 2KDime ID'd my last blood as the same, I am planning on a breeding attempt when they are both of age.

I have been reducing my collection of snakes recently and condensing down to pairs of my favorite species, I am excited to make my first attempts at snake breeding.

What I want to know is how to tell the difference, think you could help me with that 2KDime?

The best way to ID different species, subspecies, locales etc. is to look at LOTS of pictures/see lots in person.

Our brains are hardwired to take all those mental images of 'brongersmai' and form an ability to better identify 'brongersmai' vs 'not brongersmai' when presented an image of a snake.

Psychology is fun.

The #1 thing that I noticed about your snake that made me think 'brongersmai' is its coloration.

http://ball-pythons.net/forums/showt...quot-Goon-quot
Here is the post containing the pics of my first blood python, "Goon", he has been ID'd as a Brongersmai as well.

His coloration is not nearly as red or orange, what about his colors say Brongersmai to you?

I am attempting to clarify for my own understanding.

For the one in this post, the color's obviously brongersmai - none of the other short tails would have that coloration. For your other one, it's not just the color but a mix of color and a little bit of pattern (and for yours, the scales - since you posted head shots). The other is quite orange, and those reds and oranges aren't usually in a borneo. It can be kind of subtle sometimes, but when you've seen enough of them you'll start to pick up on it. There is a lot of variation in color for brongersmai, but even those that aren't red are usually a little more orange, and they aren't as dark dorsally as a normal borneo - as babies, anyway. I'm trying to think of what it is exactly that I see, but I am not sure if that's it or not. :P I know I can see the difference.

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Originally Posted by mainbutter

Yup! I count my lucky stars, cuz plenty of snakes (especially young ones are snappy, but the ONLY snappy one I've had to deal with is the blood python. Even one of my very young carpet pythons was 'supposed' to be a little devil, but he seriously chilled out after coming home to my place. I just chuck the blood python up to the universe evening the odds on getting placid snakes.

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She's young, I will bet you she'll grow out of it - even without a lot of handling. They seem to have a tendency to be a little extra defensive when they're young. One of my first was like that, too. I could read him and avoid getting bit usually, but if I had him out he would strike at everything. He was like that for maybe a year and a half, then he just grew out of it. He's still the feistiest of my 5 short tails, but he's very very easy to handle now when he's out of the cage. He hisses, but they all do. :D