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  • 11-22-2010, 06:11 PM
    kellysballs
    Re: Do YOU think genetically...White Snakes (Lucys) are a dead end?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Freakie_frog View Post
    As a breeder do I think the all white snake is a dead end?? NO!!

    Who wouldn't want a Super Lesser Super pastel Super Enchi might be an all white snake but with a few normals your sitting on a breeder powerhouse.. So genetically they are no different than any other super.. The problem comes in knowing what is hiding behind the white.. Is it a super Lesser Pastel spider or just a super lesser Pastel ect..

    As a collector do I think they are a dead end?..NO! Any one that thinks so hasn't had the pleasure of pulling a tub open and seeing that little white gem laying there, or seeing one in the egg..just my two cents..

    I love BEL's and anyone that doesn't I'll be happy to take everyone they have off their hands at no charge.. LOL

    I agree 100%!!!:D
  • 11-22-2010, 06:17 PM
    shorty54
    Re: Do YOU think genetically...White Snakes (Lucys) are a dead end?
    I'm new to the Morph world but, I'm getting a Lesser to have my own Lucy. I'd rather breed it over buying it! It'd mean more to me!!! But, I fell they're beautiful and will always remain a wanted snake!
  • 11-23-2010, 11:03 AM
    WFReptiles
    ok, well thanks for all the input. I agree that theres a lot more to be done withthe Lucy's, lets see what is created in the next couple of years...should be very interesting.

    Becky
  • 11-23-2010, 11:19 AM
    shaunwithbite
    Re: Do YOU think genetically...White Snakes (Lucys) are a dead end?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by shorty54 View Post
    I'm new to the Morph world but, I'm getting a Lesser to have my own Lucy. I'd rather breed it over buying it! It'd mean more to me!!! But, I fell they're beautiful and will always remain a wanted snake!

    same here... i'm also counting the days for eggs to be laid from my lesser x lesser .. i feel making them mean a lot more than just buying them :D
  • 11-23-2010, 11:30 AM
    Bill Buchman
    Re: Do YOU think genetically...White Snakes (Lucys) are a dead end?
    Not all Leucys are created equal I submit. I have some "out if the box" white snakes in the works this season. I have a pretty good shot at a Leucy Het Caramel this season. It is a steeping stone to a Caramel Leucy the following year. I am not sure if it will be a fantastic visual -- but a male would rock and roll in any breeders collection working with Caramels or Ultramels. :bow:

    White snakes are homozygous -- and that is always a great thing!!! :gj:
  • 11-23-2010, 11:47 AM
    Freakie_frog
    Re: Do YOU think genetically...White Snakes (Lucys) are a dead end?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Bill Buchman View Post
    Not all Leucys are created equal I submit. I have some "out if the box" white snakes in the works this season. I have a pretty good shot at a Leucy Het Caramel this season. It is a steeping stone to a Caramel Leucy the following year. I am not sure if it will be a fantastic visual -- but a male would rock and roll in any breeders collection working with Caramels or Ultramels. :bow:

    White snakes are homozygous -- and that is always a great thing!!! :gj:

    I think we are going to start seeing some Lucy's getting a little color and pattern bred back into them.. Look at the Polar..

    Exciting non the less
  • 11-23-2010, 01:33 PM
    Akren_905
    Re: Do YOU think genetically...White Snakes (Lucys) are a dead end?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by TrpnBils View Post
    Don't listen to this guy...

    I'll give you $10 apiece for them :D

    50 :D lol
  • 11-23-2010, 08:10 PM
    WFReptiles
    Re: Do YOU think genetically...White Snakes (Lucys) are a dead end?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Bill Buchman View Post
    Not all Leucys are created equal I submit. I have some "out if the box" white snakes in the works this season. I have a pretty good shot at a Leucy Het Caramel this season. It is a steeping stone to a Caramel Leucy the following year. I am not sure if it will be a fantastic visual -- but a male would rock and roll in any breeders collection working with Caramels or Ultramels. :bow:

    White snakes are homozygous -- and that is always a great thing!!! :gj:

    we have some pretty cool lucy projects comming up:

    :rolleyes:;)
  • 11-23-2010, 08:42 PM
    mainbutter
    I don't believe that a super pastel super enchi super lesser has any value beyond a super lesser.. EXCEPT as a breeder.

    I don't buy ANY snakes just for breeding potential. If they don't look their 'value', I have no interest in them.

    The only 'het' anything in my collection looked good enough already for me to spend what I spent on it if it was a normal.

    Yes, that also means for the moment, I stay far away from pretty much all recessive traits, especially ones that people currently spend big bucks on.
  • 11-23-2010, 10:12 PM
    WFReptiles
    Re: Do YOU think genetically...White Snakes (Lucys) are a dead end?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by mainbutter View Post
    I don't believe that a super pastel super enchi super lesser has any value beyond a super lesser.. EXCEPT as a breeder.

    I don't buy ANY snakes just for breeding potential. If they don't look their 'value', I have no interest in them.

    The only 'het' anything in my collection looked good enough already for me to spend what I spent on it if it was a normal.

    Yes, that also means for the moment, I stay far away from pretty much all recessive traits, especially ones that people currently spend big bucks on.

    I am sorry to hear that...
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