Caramel Clown or VPI Axanthic Clown

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Originally Posted by adogunnaike

I Imagine producing a bunch of much needed caramel hets that are all kinked.. or even worst, you hit that 1 in 16 and its kinked. .

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Het caramels don't kink.

Ultramel Clown > Axanthic Clown > Caramel Clown. I think that about covers it.

I will put my money on Axanthic Clown too, so how are you going to do it?

But what is "kinking"?

regards

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Originally Posted by adogunnaike

I chose Axanthic only because Id hate to be invested into a project that tons of complications. Imagine producing a bunch of much needed caramel hets that are all kinked.. or even worst, you hit that 1 in 16 and its kinked. Remember the average female only lays 6 eggs, it may take you up to 3 yrs (18 eggs) to get your Caramel Clown and if it was kinked it could possibly take you another 3 years to get another one. I would have chosen a Ultramel Clown over the Axanthic Clown though. I really love the rich colors of Caramels & Ultramels over Axanthic, but dollar of dollar Id put my money into the axanthic over caramel. Ultramels are another story.

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in response imagine if you hit the 1/16 odds and its not kinked tho :dance:

kinking is when the snake spine isn't straight, its kinked.

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Originally Posted by OhhWatALoser

kinking is when the snake spine isn't straight, its kinked.

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Ok, thanks. Is kinking usual in caramels? because I´ve never heard before about this problem.

regards

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Originally Posted by J.Vandegrift

Het caramels don't kink.

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I meant Caramel hets as in Caramel het Clown. sorry for the confusion :)

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Originally Posted by OhhWatALoser

in response imagine if you hit the 1/16 odds and its not kinked tho :dance:

kinking is when the snake spine isn't straight, its kinked.

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Your right! A caramel clown in my opinion is a very pretty snake!!!

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Originally Posted by El Gran Pito

Ok, thanks. Is kinking usual in caramels? because I´ve never heard before about this problem.

regards

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Yes, from my understanding it happens more than a lot of people would like to see. I know that is why a lot of breeders stay away from Caramel projects.

kinking is a risk that I am willing to take. I will say this about genetic flaws if I ever do make any they will be culled. I know some people say just adopt it out, but I am sorry I do not want to even take the slightest chance that some idiot would breed it. I really do not see it any different then people breeding spider balls with the wobble. Some spiders have the wobble and some don't just have to weed through until you get the desired results without the genetic deformities.
My close friend that I got my caramel project from (Def. Hets) did not produce one kinked caramel with the three years of breeding (think he produced 7 caramels in that time). I know that both hets though were from seriously out crossed lines so I guess diversity is one key to the non-kinking. I will have to choose the caramel clown for mine. Not really because I am shooting for them in the future, but because I love the ones I have seen already over axanthic clowns.