Oh My God... Graphic images

Just like people, all snakes do not hatch out normal. If the rest were normal, who knows what went wrong?:confused:

That is great odds for a regular pastel! Better luck next time! Poor little thing!

Unbelievable. Reminds me of spinal bifida in babies (Say nothing, Skiploder).
:( I'm sorry for your loss but congrats on the others.

So sorry for your loss. I have heard of several instances where some organs are on the outside, but have never seen it in person. I am sure it is a very difficult thing to experience.

I am glad the others are OK. They are very nice pastels. Congrats.

update: all 3 surviving babies are healthy little pastel females, fantastic odds. someone was telling me yesterday that some people believe there is such a thing as a het pastel but no one has proved it. has anyone heard about this before?

http://i841.photobucket.com/albums/z...03/pastels.jpg

Sorry for your loss. The other pastels look great though.

Pastels are co-dominant. They are the Het form of the homozygous Super Pastel. So a normal looking ball python can't have the pastel gene, unless it's a bad browned out pastel.

I have to say I am watching my babies slowly coming head and tongue sent a couple pics to a good friend of mine both parents dubbed on here "pretty normals" and well my babies look like pastels not normals......just saying maybe theres more to it it's not an exact science after all and though mine aren't completely out yet (that's when I'll post pics) I doubt they're normal.

So sad about the litte hatchling.You can't go wrong with a clutch of all pastels though!

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Originally Posted by cbentley

Sorry for your loss. The other pastels look great though.

Pastels are co-dominant. They are the Het form of the homozygous Super Pastel. So a normal looking ball python can't have the pastel gene, unless it's a bad browned out pastel.

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I fully understand that. what i heard is that some people believe there can be hets. it was just the first i heard of it and i'm wondering if other people have heard of it. as i think about it, i wonder if it can be possible. it would be nice if someone with a better understanding of genetics could chime in on this. just hear me out, what if you had a baby that inherited the pastel gene but the normal trait over rides the pastel trait. i know typically if it has the pastel gene, then it shows. but it could be possible for the gene to get hidden...

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Originally Posted by hotrod5603

I fully understand that. what i heard is that some people believe there can be hets. it was just the first i heard of it and i'm wondering if other people have heard of it. as i think about it, i wonder if it can be possible. it would be nice if someone with a better understanding of genetics could chime in on this. just hear me out, what if you had a baby that inherited the pastel gene but the normal trait over rides the pastel trait. i know typically if it has the pastel gene, then it shows. but it could be possible for the gene to get hidden...

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Pastels ARE hets....visible hets for the homozygous super pastel. I've not personally heard of het for pastels though.

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