blue lucy x normal

Really? I always thought they had that distinctive something (that yellow look), but imagined it to be just based on the individual snake due to the "het" designation.

And yes, I probably should have put down that they were all heterozygous, however for the most part this community tends to use "het" for things that are non-visual heterozygous animals and whatever individual name for visual heterozygous animals. Sorry for the confusion, but it seems that the industry itself likes to use terms exclusively, then jump back using them in full whenever they feel that it suits their interest.

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Originally Posted by Beardedragon

Not only that, but the Het russo is actually a codom color morph, not a true "het" so to speak . They are sort of like the fire, and do amazing things when crossed with a Phantom :bow:

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uhhh no it is a "true het" since it is heterozygous ( 1 copy of the gene )

There in lies the issue with the industry. We refer to heterozygous non-visuals as "hets" and all visual heterozygous snakes (aside from Vin Russo Het, correct me if there are more) as some name. Due to the continual usage of "het" solely for non-visuals it creates a kind of conflict when referring to things as heterozygous on a genetic level.

Yes all non-super co-dom morphs are het for whatever super they make, no we do not refer to them as hets. Yes heterozygous albinos are hets, and we refer to them as such.

So when someone uses the term "het" for something we are trained to think it is heterozygous non-visual, however a het BEL is any of those previously described snakes (except perhaps for the Phantom which seemingly magically forms a BEL with certain other morphs in the "complex" and not with the others or itself).

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Originally Posted by BAMReptiles

uhhh no it is a "true het" since it is heterozygous ( 1 copy of the gene )

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You should reread my post.

http://www.worldofballpythons.com/wizard/

this link should be stickied or something so we dont get 5 trillion threads a day of " what do i get....." or if i put X and Y together what do i get?"

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Originally Posted by Beardedragon

You should reread my post.

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you should learn what words mean then, because the way i worded it is 100% correct. just because it displays a trait from 1 gene doesnt change the fact that it IS heterozygous.

genetics 101: in something with 2 genes on 1 locus, its either heterozygous (1 copy) or homozygous (2 copies)

edit: pretty much what oxy said, and yet you thanked his post when it said the same thing as mine?

It is possible to have a BEL from a Lesser, butter, mojo, phantom, right? Or would the phantom mess it up? How would you prove that? Wow. A 4 combo super. How HOT would that be!?

since they all share the same gene locus you could only have any 2 of them present in the same animal at once.

with that said, i know phantom x mojave isnt a solid white BEL. not sure if ther other phantom combos have really been done yet tho. i think phantom x lesser produced a BEL tho, if so id assume phantom x butter would as well since butter = lesser.

phantom x phantom is also not a solid white BEL either

Those two arent just not solid white BELs (unlike homozygous Mojaves, which are not solid white BELs) they're completely not BELs. The Phantom/Mojave forms a gorgeous snake called the Purple Passion. The Super Phantom is awesome (I like the Purple Passion more, though)

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Originally Posted by BAMReptiles

you should learn what words mean then, because the way i worded it is 100% correct. just because it displays a trait from 1 gene doesnt change the fact that it IS heterozygous.

genetics 101: in something with 2 genes on 1 locus, its either heterozygous (1 copy) or homozygous (2 copies)

edit: pretty much what oxy said, and yet you thanked his post when it said the same thing as mine?

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Look at what I qouted, and then read mine. I am not saying you are wrong at all, I know very well what you are talking about, perhaps more than you, you are very right, but you have not gotten the meaning to my post and correcting information to something I was not telling. And actually Oxy agree'd to what both of said, I take it he/she knows what I am talking about.