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  • 07-16-2010, 08:54 PM
    chapskis1
    Re: Making the move to tubs...
    From the pics it looks like you have your thermostat probe right on top of the substrate next to the thermometer probe. If that is the case, then you need to move the thermostat probe. It should be taped (aluminum tape works well) directly to the uth on the outside of the tub.

    That way the probe can't be moved by the snake which could result in temp spikes, and it can't get peed on (which could mess up temps), etc.
  • 07-16-2010, 10:09 PM
    tiny_tiger60978
    Re: Making the move to tubs...
    oh ok...makes since. I was just told to put it on top of the substrate so it will record the temps that the snake will feel. I usually put at least an inch or two of aspen down, so it seems like not all the heat would make it to the top of the bedding...

    Actually i had it that way mainly to calibrate my thermostat...my thermometer is more accurate than the thermostat, so i was making sure to adjust the thermostat to the right temps first.

    can see how the snake peeing on the probs would mess things up though. Thanks for the tip!
  • 07-16-2010, 10:37 PM
    tiny_tiger60978
    Re: Making the move to tubs...
    oh ok...makes since. I was just told to put it on top of the substrate so it will record the temps that the snake will feel. I usually put at least an inch or two of aspen down, so it seems like not all the heat would make it to the top of the bedding...

    Actually i had it that way mainly to calibrate my thermostat...my thermometer is more accurate than the thermostat, so i was making sure to adjust the thermostat to the right temps first.

    can see how the snake peeing on the probs would mess things up though. Thanks for the tip!
  • 07-17-2010, 10:20 PM
    Animals As Leaders
    Re: Making the move to tubs...
    A better method then using tape would probably be to adhere the thermostat probe to the bottom of the tub, and then hot glue the thermometer probe inside the enclosure. By doing this you can monitor the actual temp they are sitting on way more accurately. You never want the thermostat probe not adhered to the hot-spot because this will cause it to turn on when it shouldn't. If she moves it to the other cool side of the cage the thermostat will turn it on and who knows how hot it will get. I used monitor it on the outside with a thermometer probe right next to the thermostat probe, but realized (after dr.del pointed out) if you hot glue it to the inside its so much easier and accurate.

    Also, when your adjusting your tstat, use your thermometer probe as your reading. Once its turning off at 90-92 going by the thermometer your golden. This might mean the tstat is set to 95 to make this happen. Being that the tstat probe is on the outside it will be getting a cooler reading, so if you turn it up your compensating for the cooler reading. But by having the probe on the inside you will know exactly where to set it. Just takes some fiddling and patience, good luck.
  • 07-17-2010, 10:46 PM
    Vypyrz
    Re: Making the move to tubs...
    It's easy...

    Tape thermostat probe to bottom...
    https://ball-pythons.net/gallery/fil...8/hpim0446.jpg

    Tape UTH down over thermostat probe...
    https://ball-pythons.net/gallery/fil...8/hpim0448.jpg

    Add Thermometer/Hygrometer and about 1/2" to 1" of substrate...
    https://ball-pythons.net/gallery/fil...8/hpim0456.jpg

    Add furnishings...
    https://ball-pythons.net/gallery/fil...8/hpim0476.jpg

    Don't forget, you will need some type of binder clips, clothes pins, bungee cords, or luggage straps to help keep the lid on to prevent escapes...
  • 07-18-2010, 12:18 AM
    seeya205
    Re: Making the move to tubs...
    I noticed OP, you only have holes at one end! You should have them running down the whole length and sides to allow more air. I drilled my holes then used a bbq lighter to melt the edges smooth. Just a tip for people that don't have a soldering gun. I was too cheap to buy one and just used what I had!
  • 07-19-2010, 12:46 AM
    BPsRule
    Re: Making the move to tubs...
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Vypyrz View Post
    It's easy...

    Tape thermostat probe to bottom...
    https://ball-pythons.net/gallery/fil...8/hpim0446.jpg

    Tape UTH down over thermostat probe...
    https://ball-pythons.net/gallery/fil...8/hpim0448.jpg

    Add Thermometer/Hygrometer and about 1/2" to 1" of substrate...
    https://ball-pythons.net/gallery/fil...8/hpim0456.jpg

    Add furnishings...
    https://ball-pythons.net/gallery/fil...8/hpim0476.jpg

    Don't forget, you will need some type of binder clips, clothes pins, bungee cords, or luggage straps to help keep the lid on to prevent escapes...

    I was just curious, have you ever had any temp issues on the side that doesn't have a UTH? Does it ever get too cool or does the warm side UTH give off enough heat to keep the cool side where it's supposed to be? Thanks.
  • 07-19-2010, 12:00 PM
    tiny_tiger60978
    Re: Making the move to tubs...
    Ok...lots of questions to answer since this weekend.

    First off...I have holes along the entire top on one of the sides (both sides) as well as a "star" pattern. I have 2 big star patterns on the other sides at each end. (Basically each side mirrors the opposite side if that helps...The pics kinda suck sorry)

    Second, already got bungee cords in place that wrap around the entire tub when closed to keep her from going on an (unplanned) adventure when I'm gone or asleep.

    Third, I haven't had any problems with the cool side since I made the switch (still with only one uth on the warm side). It sits at about 80-83 degrees since I let it heat up (right after making the new tub).

    Forth, I have been fiddling with the uth and thermostat settings and got it to stay at about 90-93 degrees on the warm side. I may however go back and do what was shown in the pictures yall posted and put the thermostat probe under the uth on the bottom of the tub and do more adjusting with the readings at the substrate surface like you recommended... and hot glue would prob be a lot better than tape since she prob wouldn't be able to move stuff around...Thanks for the tip!!

    Thanks for all your help guys!!! I really appreciate it as this is the first time i've done something like this before.:gj:
  • 07-19-2010, 12:03 PM
    tiny_tiger60978
    Re: Making the move to tubs...
    Btw...special thanks to Vypyrz for the pics to help explain things!!! They REALLY help.

    I know yall said something about the holes, and i'd like some feedback now that maybe yall get a better idea of all the ones i put in there that i described in my last post. If yall still think I need to add more, please let me know as it's a pretty quick fix.
  • 07-19-2010, 12:22 PM
    stevepoppers
    Re: Making the move to tubs...
    If your humidity is high enough and there's no condensation forming (unless there's pee or spilled water), your holes are good.

    Thermometer probe goes UNDER the substrate, thermostat probe goes OUTSIDE the tub.

    Oh, and just the other night, we used my gas stove to heat a screwdriver to melt holes in a tub.
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