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  • 05-18-2010, 06:49 PM
    Dave Green
    Re: I cutted the eggs earlier =S help
    I think folks with limited experience should hold off on cutting eggs until they become more experienced. I personally don't cut until very late, if at all. I won't tell others what to do but I would definietly recommend a newbie let them hatch on their own.
  • 05-18-2010, 08:16 PM
    Gavin Cooper
    Re: I cutted the eggs earlier =S help
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by RichsBallPythons View Post
    Cutting at day 45 is not the problem at all.

    For the so called egg cutting experts, theres many that cut before day 45 and never have a snake die or come out early. Stop following a unwritten book about eggs. Its all Trial and error just like their husbandry.

    I just want to say thank you for pointing out that nothing is written in stone regarding Ball Pythons.
    All I can say is research as much as possible and take in everything. Once you've done that make an educated decision before proceeding.

    What works for some may blow up in the face of others.


    Gavin
  • 05-18-2010, 08:46 PM
    rabernet
    Re: I cutted the eggs earlier =S help
    Just because someone else cuts at Day 45 or earlier with no problems does not mean that everyone should. I don't care who cuts at Day 45 or even Day 30 as I saw mentioned earlier - at what cost? Just because someone is too impatient to see what they have?

    What possible benefit is there to cut so darn early? Any benefit at ALL to the snake? :confused:
  • 05-18-2010, 08:48 PM
    Jerhart
    Re: I cutted the eggs earlier =S help
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by rabernet View Post
    Just because someone else cuts at Day 45 or earlier with no problems does not mean that everyone should. I don't care who cuts at Day 45 or even Day 30 as I saw mentioned earlier - at what cost? Just because someone is too impatient to see what they have?

    What possible benefit is there to cut so darn early? Any benefit at ALL to the snake? :confused:

    Bravo.
  • 05-18-2010, 08:49 PM
    RichsBallPythons
    Re: I cutted the eggs earlier =S help
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by rabernet View Post
    Just because someone else cuts at Day 45 or earlier with no problems does not mean that everyone should. I don't care who cuts at Day 45 or even Day 30 as I saw mentioned earlier - at what cost? Just because someone is too impatient to see what they have?

    What possible benefit is there to cut so darn early? Any benefit at ALL to the snake? :confused:

    It obviously dont hurt the snake as ive had not one die from cutting day 45-50 ever.

    Like i stated before, show me where it says we MUST cut this day. Everything you or I can pull up is from others Trial and Error from that persons experience.

    We still havent figured out what this species requires to fully thrive. We just do what works best with tweaking here and there.

    EDIT- Never have i encouraged someone to cut early cause i have never had a problem. ITs their choice not ours, but seems when one does they jump their throat saying they have done wrong by doing so.
  • 05-18-2010, 08:50 PM
    Jerhart
    Re: I cutted the eggs earlier =S help
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by RichsBallPythons View Post
    It obviously dont hurt the snake as ive had not one die from cutting day 45-50 ever.

    Like i stated before, show me where it says we MUST cut this day. Everything you or I can pull up is from others Trial and Error from that persons experience.

    We still havent figured out what this species requires to fully thrive. We just do what works best with tweaking here and there.

    You neglected to answer what is the benefit to cutting early...other than satisfying your shorten, or lack of, patience...
  • 05-18-2010, 08:51 PM
    rabernet
    Re: I cutted the eggs earlier =S help
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by RichsBallPythons View Post
    It obviously dont hurt the snake as ive had not one die from cutting day 45-50 ever.

    Like i stated before, show me where it says we MUST cut this day. Everything you or I can pull up is from others Trial and Error from that persons experience.

    We still havent figured out what this species requires to fully thrive. We just do what works best with tweaking here and there.

    Again - what BENEFIT is it to the health of the egg or the snake to cut THAT early?

    WHY cut that early? What reasons do YOU have for cutting that early when left to their own devices, they hatch later than that?

    I'm really not trying to be confrontational - I seriously want to know husbandry wise, why one would choose to cut that early?
  • 05-18-2010, 08:53 PM
    RichsBallPythons
    Re: I cutted the eggs earlier =S help
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by rabernet View Post
    Again - what BENEFIT is it to the health of the egg or the snake to cut THAT early?

    WHY cut that early? What reasons do YOU have for cutting that early when left to their own devices, they hatch later than that?

    I'm really not trying to be confrontational - I seriously want to know husbandry wise, why one would choose to cut that early?

    I cut that early as its what i do. And not one problem has arose from it. Thats why i do it. There is no benifit or downfall to doing it at 45.
  • 05-18-2010, 08:58 PM
    rabernet
    Re: I cutted the eggs earlier =S help
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by RichsBallPythons View Post
    I cut that early as its what i do. And not one problem has arose from it. Thats why i do it. There is no benifit or downfall to doing it at 45.

    You're still not answering WHY you choose to cut that early? I'm seriously trying to understand that part. Is it because you can't wait seven days longer to cut at day 52? Is it because John (Jas) does it (I saw you cited him as doing so in an earlier post)?

    My personal opinion, I think you've been very lucky cutting that early - there's too much of a window of opportunity for harmful bacteria to get into the egg while the snake continues to mature for another week to ten days. Even cutting at Day 52, my eggs can get pretty ugly on the inside by the time the babies decide to exit their eggs, I can't imagine how they'd be with another week exposed to "the elements". And I don't even cut windows, I cut small "V's" to allow the snake to sucessfully exit the egg.

    What one chooses to do with their eggs is entirely their business, but I think encouraging others to make risky calculations like this and stating unequivacally that there's no problem with doing so, is not the best advice to give - especially with all the newer breeders emerging each year with zero prior experience that look to these forums for advice.
  • 05-18-2010, 09:03 PM
    rabernet
    Re: I cutted the eggs earlier =S help
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by RichsBallPythons View Post
    It obviously dont hurt the snake as ive had not one die from cutting day 45-50 ever.

    How many eggs have you personally cut at Day 45?
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